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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 5:54 PM
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Safe to say that the builder of the current building was completely uninterested in art and design but rather more interested in exploiting the value of the property. Nothing wrong with that, but neither does it do much for anything but very local commerce--just makes Los Angeles that much uglier. Now, RiT... Santa Fe may be a concocted cityscape, but, as someone who spends time there, I've never seen anything like this. Certainly there is lots of this crap in old Mexico aside from the tourist towns, maybe in Texas border towns, but not in Santa Fe.
Well GW, yes in Santa Fe. And no you won't find an exact duplicate for a variety of reasons. What you will find is what in New Mexico and specifically around Santa Fe is a lot of what is an architectural style that has come to known locally as "Territorial", whatever that is. It appears to me to be an attempt to blend Pueblo with a bastardized form of shopping center modern. I personally find no great similarity with it and the true nature of structures that would have been built in New Mexico's territorial period. As a comment on Santa Fe in general, since the loons have discovered Santa Fe what we commonly see in new residential and commercial buildings are horribly exaggerated "Pueblo" style structures with an appearance that historically never existed anywhere with in the region, not even in Santa Fe's historic region.

As for the L.A. buildings in question, once one strips away the tenant junk that building owners have unfortunately allowed what we have is a variation of Streamline Modern with distinctive 1950/1960's perceptions of Southwestern leanings as I see it. Whether the buildings "ugly up" downtown L.A. I think that would be hard to do given the profusion of "ugly" already there. I think you are allowing cultural creep deflect you from the basic design nature of the buildings.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 7:29 PM
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Oy vey, as they say in Santa Fe.

Moving right along....
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Red Car madness....

Here we see more Los Angeles streetcar insanity in the 1940s & '50s. This is a gray day in Glendale as the sign at the Left reveals. We see a line of people standing in the street, waiting for a streetcar.

The amount of danger these hapless people were subjected to in those days is mind boggling. Imagine this at night with children in tow and shoppers with groceries and packages.



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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 9:23 PM
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Palmer Conner slides

Another batch of images from this collection are up on the Huntington Digital Library.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 9:24 PM
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Thanks for the heads up Longrifle. -much appreciated.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 9:30 PM
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I found the picture below on the USC site a couple of weeks ago. At the time they had it labeled as "Birdseye view of an unidentified building within the Central Manufacturing District". I think the reason they'd failed to identify it was because the image was inverted and the main building looked black. As soon as I'd flipped it I could see it was the building now known as The Citadel.


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Here's a closer look. I don't see any U.S. Tires signage, so this must be a 1930 picture of the Samson Tire and Rubber Company. I contacted USC, and they've now updated the description and inverted the image.


Detail of picture above.

Behind the tire factory is the Crane Pipe Warehouse and Dipping Plant.


Detail of picture above.


e_r's previous post on The Citadel:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6291
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 9:41 PM
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This is a bit of a mystery (to me anyway).

If I am reading it correctly, the sign below the dormer says Los Angeles House.
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I found this in an older file of mine. It's possible it was located in Pasadena. (1890s?)
Maybe we've seen it before on NLA, but I don't think so.

p.s. I like the guy posing on the widow's walk. (atop the roof)
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 10:37 PM
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 10:38 PM
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Tetsu, have you heard of the architects Locke & Munsell?

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2014, 10:48 PM
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Does anyone recognize the buildings behind these three sun-bathers?


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Just a few years later. This is one of the recently added Palmer Conner slides. The caption reads: "Richfield-Bank of America excavation site. Plaza construction site encompassed by 5th Street, Flower Street, 6th Street, and Figueroa Street. Double bottom dump trucks used to haul away dirt."


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Here we see more Los Angeles streetcar insanity in the 1940s & '50s. This is a gray day in Glendale as the sign at the Left reveals. We see a line of people standing in the street, waiting for a streetcar.

The amount of danger these hapless people were subjected to in those days is mind boggling. Imagine this at night with children in tow and shoppers with groceries and packages.



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I Fondly remember some of those iconic downtown Glendale businesses. Richman's, Webb's Department Store, Arthur Murray, and The Alex Theatre pillar off in the distance (looks much taller than I remember).

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Hello, I stumbled upon this group and it brings back a ton of memories - even more for my mom.

Looking for any photos of the public storage building off of the 101 and Beverly when it had the Yellow Pages sign on the side of it ("Let your fingers do the walking"). THANKS!
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In the center above is one of Billy Sunday's daughters-in-law, against whom Mrs. Olive Day brought a $50,000 alienation-of-affections suit. Mrs. Day charges that Mrs. Sunday, a wife of the famous evangelist's son, stole the affections of her husband. (Photo dated: September 17, 1928.) (I gave up trying to count George's wives.) On either side are photos of George Sunday, the second apparently taken only days before his suicide in 1933.


Whatever the era, where there's an evangelist, there's scandal. I've always been more interested in the L.A. angle of Aimee's hypocrisy and hadn't been paying attention to Billy Sunday's L.A. baggage. This is just some of it:



NY Tribune 11-19-23/LAT11-22-1929 and 9-12-1933
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2014, 12:33 AM
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Here we see more Los Angeles streetcar insanity in the 1940s & '50s. This is a gray day in Glendale as the sign at the Left reveals. We see a line of people standing in the street, waiting for a streetcar.

The amount of danger these hapless people were subjected to in those days is mind boggling. Imagine this at night with children in tow and shoppers with groceries and packages.



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Doug, The theory was that the streetcar patron would remain safely on the sidewalk until he saw the destination sign of the car he wished to board and then cross with the light to wait out the remaining seconds until boarding. In the main it worked quite well. However, inevitably there were those times when streetcar patrons fell victim to an inattentive or drunk driver, with predictable results.

I especially like this photo for not only the PCC car but also the 1950 Pontiac Streamliner alongside the streetcar "safety zone", as this year and model was my first car!

Cheers,
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North end of Hill Street Tunnel #2

In the past we discussed the north portal at Sunset Blvd., but I don't think we ever found a good shot of it:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12088
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12092
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12094

MR posted (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13337) a photo showing the tunnel portal from above; it's at the bottom, just left of center, below large empty area on Ft. Moore Hill and to the right of the angled Sunset Blvd./Hill St. intersection:

aerial looking southeast across fort moore hill, ca,1939

ProphetM zoomed in on that photo and outlined the tunnel portal:
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belmont bob: Hill St. tunnel #2 and Stevens Place are in fact there, but they're down at the bottom edge and hard to make out. I have marked the tunnel opening on this full-res crop, plus the top of the wall around the entrance, and running down along the left side of Stevens Place:

Now, thanks to Longrifle's heads-up, here's a shot of the sealed-off north portal from July 1, 1958, with a Mt. Lowe ghost ad to the right along with the Hill Street/Sunset intersection:

Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/7933/rec/3
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Now if only this family would take their Kodak over to Monkey Island.

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This is an odd little slide.

Is that the La Brea Tar Pits in the foreground?
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I am especially intrigued by that boarded up house. I'm hoping one of you nla scholars can pinpoint the location.



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This is an odd little slide.

Is that the La Brea Tar Pits in the foreground?
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I am especially intrigued by that boarded up house. I'm hoping one of you nla scholars can pinpoint the location.



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We talked about this a while back, it was a house near the ROW for what use to be the Ortho building (at least it was Ortho in the early 90s when we shopped at May Co)adjacent to May Co,if memory serves its on Orange or Ogden..
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2014, 2:53 AM
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Whoa! A couple of days late, but congratulations and a deep thanks to everyone who's contributed to Noirish Los Angeles since June 2009. Your dedication and expertise is overwhelming. 1000+ pages. Fortunately I don't have to pay for the countless hours I've spent here.
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