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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 12:35 PM
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Not a site per se - but here's the bridge they are building to connect the Eaton Centre to the Hudson's Bay Building across Queen Street





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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 2:07 PM
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 2:11 PM
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Surprised they would install the glass on the Eaton Centre bridge before moving it into place. You'd figure they could do that without blocking traffic and it's hard to imagine zero damage while the bridge is being installed. I assume they know what they are doing though - should be a big difference from the old bridge.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 2:28 PM
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no bridge would still be better
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 3:54 PM
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The bridge is necessary. The Bay Eaton Centre PATH connection is always a nightmare especially at rush hour. The Bay and Cadillac Fairview are smart to replace this vital connection which allows shoppers to freely move between the two locations with ought having to go outside or funnel through the lower level. We are taking about connecting to multi level shopping structures here so I fail to see how having one less connection would make any sense. Obviously the people at CF and the Bay recognized this unique situation as well or they would not be replacing the structure. I commend them for replacing it with such an interesting design.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 3:56 PM
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Street vistas being blocked by such bridge is evil.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 4:03 PM
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A necessary evil at least it looks sexy. You would hate Calgary then.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 4:08 PM
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A necessary evil at least it looks sexy. You would hate Calgary then.
I hate that they did that on Rideau street in Ottawa. Completely ruined the street.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 4:15 PM
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I hate that they did that on Rideau street in Ottawa. Completely ruined the street.
Well about 80% of Torontonians only know what it's like to have that pedestrian bridge there so for the vast majority no vista has ever been ruined. Hell it was featured in one of the earliest ads for the Eaton Centre.

1983, 7 years after it opened.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 4:30 PM
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I'm against that bridge over Saint-Antoine and I hope it wont set a precedent for more to come. Montreal should never have sold out to Cadillac Fairview with that bridge. It's a shame.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 4:43 PM
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The city's urbanists fought long and hard against that bridge. As they should have. The argument for the bridge was that Antoine street is too busy/dangerous for pedestrian traffic.

Well then fix the problem at street level, no? Better lighting, crosswalk, street furniture, wider sidewalk.

And yes, so long as it doesn't set a precedent.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 4:55 PM
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Street vistas being blocked by such bridge is evil.
It's an awesome sight to see the street for the first time without any bridge crossing it. I don't buy the bridge as a vital overflow for the PATH being 2 storeys removed from the underground network and subway station. (there are no overflow bridges between King & Bay and Union Station) I never once considered using it for this function so I can't say I have seen the bridge in rush hour. It's primary function is as a climate controlled connection between Hudson's Bay and the mall.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 5:35 PM
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It's an awesome sight to see the street for the first time without any bridge crossing it. I don't buy the bridge as a vital overflow for the PATH being 2 storeys removed from the underground network and subway station. (there are no overflow bridges between King & Bay and Union Station) I never once considered using it for this function so I can't say I have seen the bridge in rush hour. It's primary function is as a climate controlled connection between Hudson's Bay and the mall.
You're correct because their are several MASSIVE PATH connections underground meant for moving the masses. The Queen PATH connection is the oldest, one of the smallest and one of the busiest in the network. I'm not expecting you to "buy it" after all it was my opinion so like most times you need to say the opposite thing. lol.

Such an awesome site, the vista along queen is to behold by all. lol They should promote it as a tourist attraction this summer.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 6:13 PM
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It's not nearly as busy as the long walks leading to Union. (a third to half of the PATH system) It's a bottleneck because of its poor design with respect to Queen subway station. To that end, how does a bridge two storeys removed help?
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 6:38 PM
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I would agree - it looks a lot better without the bridge there. I took this a few weeks ago looking across at the Smart House condo.

Granted - the streetcar wires are also missing which makes things look cleaner

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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 7:47 PM
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I disagree about the bridge. It lends a certain intimacy to that area that I appreciate. In contrast it looks kind of barren without it and believe it or not, less people hang out and mingle there as a result (I work in the area and walk by/through here almost every weekday). I've also noticed less people feel comfortable jay walking etc. When it's open like that it feels more car-oriented. When you're in a car and approaching a bridge like that you tend to slow down.
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Street vistas being blocked by such bridge is evil.
I would argue that the bridge, and the wires, and the buildings, and the vehicles, and the people, etc... ARE the street vista! All of it blocks out the potion of the view that is behind it...
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 10:31 PM
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The old bridge was definitely part of the streetscape. It's removal only highlights how insufficient the streetscaping is. I would have preferred that done as well as improvements to the Eaton Centre entrance instead of the budget going towards a new bridge
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 10:55 PM
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 11:36 PM
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Yeah, that looks oppressive. Different vibe to this though


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