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Old Posted Aug 14, 2010, 3:42 PM
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Looks like the Ontario government will finally allow UFC in Ontario. No doubt there'll hold an event at Copps.

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Katz Group seeks extension

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The Edmonton-based Katz Group has asked for an extension in negotiating an agenda for developing a plan to run Hamilton’s entertainment facilities.

A letter from the owners of the Edmonton Oilers’ entertainment division called for a new deadline of Dec. 31 for a non-binding memorandum of agreement on operating facilities like Copps Coliseum, the Convention Centre and associated parking.

The letter obtained by The Hamilton Spectator cited “events surrounding the selection of the Pan Am Stadium” which conflicted with the Katz Group’s “need to know all the facilities that may be available to our plans.”

It added a municipal election in two months was a further complication.
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Cirque du Soleil to Immortal-ize Michael Jackson’s Neverland in Hamilton-bound tour

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King, writer and director of what Cirque is billing as Michael Jackson, THE IMMORTAL World Tour.

“It is really about a central character or characters who get transported into this world of Neverland where they learn everything there is to know about Michael,” said King, who has directed concert tours for Madonna, Rihanna and Celine Dion.

The tour will kick off in Montreal next October and hit 30 cities including a stop at Copps Coliseum Oct. 12. Tickets for the Hamilton show go on sale Saturday, through Ticketmaster (presales to Jackson fan clubs and Cirque club members began Wednesday). John Branca, coexecutor of Jackson’s estate, said that depending on fan response, it could be extended beyond its planned end in the summer of 2012 and travel outside of North America.
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HECFI loses millions

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Hamilton Entertainment and Convention Facilities Inc. needs $7.25 million in taxpayer money to cover its losses after a disastrous year.

HECFI, an arm’s-length city agency, wants council to pay off a $1.5 million deficit it amassed over the past several months. That’s in addition to the $5.75 million the city pays HECFI to cover its expenses, including an annual grant of approximately $2.8 million, $2 million in utility costs, and other expenses such as a $100,000 special events fee and a $214,000 subsidy to the Hamilton Bulldogs.

HECFI, which oversees Hamilton Place, the Convention Centre, and Copps Coliseum, also isn’t expected to entirely erase the $1.5 million deficit in 2011. Next year, it will ask the city for $300,000 to $400,000 on top of its $5.75 million annual subsidy.

CEO Duncan Gillespie says the losses at HECFI are due to a combination of factors, especially the lagging economy and a difficult year for concert venues.

“What one needs to understand is that the entertainment business is a high-risk business. The tail end of ’09 and 2010 has been a brutally bad year for the entertainment industry. The kinds of pressures we’re experiencing are being experienced nationwide, across North America, and in fact, globally.”

But Marcel Mongeon, HECFI’s chairperson, says the board is “extremely concerned” about the deficit and is having “the candid confidential discussions that people would expect us to be having” about HECFI’s future.

“We’ve taken a 2.8 million subsidy and turned it into what some people will regard as a difficult financial situation. And they would be correct,” he said.

Gillespie said HECFI is facing bigger losses than other venues because many entertainers are forgoing smaller cities like Hamilton in favour of bigger cities like Toronto and Montreal. That led to the cancellation of eight concerts between May and September.

“We had a number of concerts — and they total about $850,000 to our bottom line — that we were anticipating in 2010 that within a period of three months just moved,” he said.

Sagging attendance was another financial drain. Gillespie points to the American Idol concert, which was expected to attract 12,000 to 14,000 people and only drew 2,000 to 4,000. The low attendance in Hamilton led to the cancellation of the remainder of the American Idol tour.

“Those expectations of attendance were based on three previous, very successful shows. All of a sudden, that show didn’t do well,” Gillespie said.

HECFI has also suffered losses on the convention side. Because of a lack of large conferences in Hamilton, Gillespie said HECFI has been forced to lower its prices on banquets, weddings, and conventions to attract business. That means those events haven’t been profitable.

“We were being overly competitive, I think, would be the best way to put it,” he said.

To help save money, HECFI has laid off four employees and has given all of its managers a 5 per cent pay cut. Other employees in the administrative departments have been working reduced hours. Travel and other expenses have been cut.

“We’re hoping that as 2011 rolls out and we dig ourselves out of this hole that we will be able to reverse those,” Duncan said.

Gillespie will be preparing a plan to present to the board and to council in the coming weeks. Council will have to approve any additional funding for the agency.

Mayor-elect Bob Bratina, who sat on the HECFI board as Ward 2 councillor and who will continue this role as mayor, did not return a request for comment. Councillor Terry Whitehead, the other council representative on the HECFI board, is out of the country.

Mongeon said the board is “very sensitive to the fact that we cost city council money” and will be looking to Gillespie to come up with a plan to ease the financial burden.

“Certainly as recently as our June board meetings, we were anticipating being able to operate pretty close to budget. Three or four months later, you’re getting a deficit in to seven digit size,” he said.

“Absolutely, the board is as concerned as any citizen of the city is. The challenge for the board is we don’t drive the bus. Duncan drives the bus.”

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Wow, now we know why Katz has backed away from committing to an agreement to operate HECFI.
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A letter from the owners of the Edmonton Oilers’ entertainment division called for a new deadline of Dec. 31 for a non-binding memorandum of agreement on operating facilities like Copps Coliseum, the Convention Centre and associated parking.
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...postponing the deadline is what I am referring to. He obviously was getting cold feet, and these results sure aren't going to give him the warm and fuzzies. I predict a memorandum of agreement will never be signed.
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"News flash" we have a recession

Hamilton has major issues and the economy here is not doing well. So maybe HECFI should adjust their prices. The U.S. has bigger issues. So people can not afford to splurge on entertainment.
I think the Bulldogs are a separate entity, but I was talking to someone in the loop and they say Bulldogs attendence is way down.
HELLO $26 (adult) a ticket is way too high. How can a guy afford to take his family to a game. They don't get it. And wonder why attendence is down.
Check up on the other teams in the league.
I mentioned this to the Bulldogs and they said "tough"
Cheap seats vs empty seats.
Reward the season ticket holders with guest passes and sell the rest for $10 a seat. To fill it till the end of the season. The concession stands will luv ya.
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...postponing the deadline is what I am referring to. He obviously was getting cold feet, and these results sure aren't going to give him the warm and fuzzies. I predict a memorandum of agreement will never be signed.
I predict the same, but if someone were to step in to run Copps or HECFI, it would probably be better to do so during a down part of the cycle rather than at an up part. Part of the reason why Katz showed some interest was likely because his group assumed they could get more out of Copps/HECFI than what the current people running it get.

Anyway, I think Katz was largely just kicking the tires. It is sad that a quick, possibly meaningless visit from Patrick LaForge many months ago has led to continued mentions of Katz.
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Hamilton has major issues and the economy here is not doing well. So maybe HECFI should adjust their prices. The U.S. has bigger issues. So people can not afford to splurge on entertainment.
I think the Bulldogs are a separate entity, but I was talking to someone in the loop and they say Bulldogs attendence is way down.
HELLO $26 (adult) a ticket is way too high. How can a guy afford to take his family to a game. They don't get it. And wonder why attendence is down.
Check up on the other teams in the league.
I mentioned this to the Bulldogs and they said "tough"
Cheap seats vs empty seats.
Reward the season ticket holders with guest passes and sell the rest for $10 a seat. To fill it till the end of the season. The concession stands will luv ya.
Filling the stands with cheap seats is not alwas the way to go as it can aslo hurt a team.If you give away thousands of ticket and charge $10.00 for the rest that won't help sure the rink may be full but revenue wise it won't help all that much.Even $10 is to cheap should ticket prices be lower yes but some time it comes down to a market not wanting or beeing able to support it.
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Cheap tickets won't be enough to help finance the cost associated with operating an AHL franchise.
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HECFI shouldn't be involved.
They have no idea how to engage the community. Bulldog ticket prices are too high. The ice alone at Copps costs $400+ an hour to rent for private functions, but the place is staffed for the one hour rental, instead of lowering the rate and booking multiple rentals.
The union labour and vibe at Hamilton Place (the Studio) is an impediment to the place being booked by promoters.
A private company could make a real go of promoting Hamilton Place and Copps.
The Convention Centre is a disaster. There are NO hotels to facilitate large events in this town.
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HECFI shouldn't be involved.
They have no idea how to engage the community. Bulldog ticket prices are too high. The ice alone at Copps costs $400+ an hour to rent for private functions, but the place is staffed for the one hour rental, instead of lowering the rate and booking multiple rentals.
The union labour and vibe at Hamilton Place (the Studio) is an impediment to the place being booked by promoters.
A private company could make a real go of promoting Hamilton Place and Copps.
The Convention Centre is a disaster. There are NO hotels to facilitate large events in this town.
I think what may hurt hamilton to a point is beeing close to toronto large events pick toronto over hamilton right or wrong.As for ice time thats a big probleam in ottawa as well and i am sure toronto as well as other citys.
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HECFI shouldn't be involved.
They have no idea how to engage the community. Bulldog ticket prices are too high. The ice alone at Copps costs $400+ an hour to rent for private functions, but the place is staffed for the one hour rental, instead of lowering the rate and booking multiple rentals.
The union labour and vibe at Hamilton Place (the Studio) is an impediment to the place being booked by promoters.
A private company could make a real go of promoting Hamilton Place and Copps.
The Convention Centre is a disaster. There are NO hotels to facilitate large events in this town.
If Katz took over, would he be able to boot the unionized workers at the HECFI facilities?
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If Katz took over, would he be able to boot the unionized workers at the HECFI facilities?
I would insist on it.
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I think what may hurt hamilton to a point is beeing close to toronto large events pick toronto over hamilton right or wrong.As for ice time thats a big probleam in ottawa as well and i am sure toronto as well as other citys.
Ice time is not the problem. The problem is that Copps is double the cost of any other rink in the city.
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Up in the air!

bye bye HECFI.....
At some point we have to dump the tax drains. Copps, Ivor Wynne? With all the other costs rising or about to rise, who can afford this.

I did hear a comment. Who will buy into a decaying enterprise and if they do, what do they do if it starts to tank out for them, Ask for a bailout?

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One thought is if they were to get a train stop at Luina station (trains tied to an event and dedicated stuttle buses. Could we lure large events here from Toronto?
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There was some discussion at Wednesday’s meeting about how issuing a request for proposals for privatizing HECFI would affect an outstanding proposal from the Edmonton-based Katz Group, which approached the city in the summer about running HECFI’s facilities: Hamilton Place, the Convention Centre and Copps Coliseum. The sense around the council table was the Katz group should be welcome to bid on the request for proposal process.

Murray plans to report back to council in February about the status of the Katz negotiations.

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