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Old Posted Aug 31, 2010, 2:02 PM
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^Probably because they seem to still be in a supertall-limbo, of sorts. At least, #2 is. #3 now has a fair shot at full construction.
No, its more likely to include room for other developments other than the WTC. Of the buildings shown in the diagram, only 3 are actually under construction, one is on hold, and 4 await either tenants, finance, or are years away from actual construction. Towers 2 and 3 meanwhile will begin their climb to street level within months, reaching street level by the end of next year.

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I REALLY LIKE THIS 1,005 FOOT TOWER. I really like the desigh i want to see this project move foward!
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I REALLY LIKE THIS 1,005 FOOT TOWER.
It's 1,060 ft according to that last piece.
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@NYguy is this, along with the other New York supertall proposals, approved? ... Please tell me if you know... Thanks~
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@NYguy is this, along with the other New York supertall proposals, approved? ... Please tell me if you know... Thanks~
It doesn't need approval. It is an "as of right" development, meaning it fits what the site is zoned for. All of the Hudson Yards developments are as of right.
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It doesn't need approval. It is an "as of right" development, meaning it fits what the site is zoned for. All of the Hudson Yards developments are as of right.
You mean the same like the old World Trade Center? I heard that the fire protection rules of the city did not count for the Twin Towers, because the PA owns the land it once stood.
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You mean the same like the old World Trade Center? I heard that the fire protection rules of the city did not count for the Twin Towers, because the PA owns the land it once stood.
No, zoning still applies for the west side parcels that are not directly in the railyard. The zoning has been made very dense though, so large buildings are possible without going through hopes and red tape like Verre is going through.
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The zoning has been made very dense though, so large buildings are possible without going through hopes and red tape like Verre is going through.
Right. It's basically the city telling developers "now that midtown is full, this is where you can build your future towers". It's why the city pushed for the 7 line extension, and not the MTA - the MTA serves demand, while the city wants to create it.
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Right. It's basically the city telling developers "now that midtown is full, this is where you can build your future towers". It's why the city pushed for the 7 line extension, and not the MTA - the MTA serves demand, while the city wants to create it.
very interesting..........
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Someone should bump this up 60 feet on the NYC diagram
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Great diagram of where this tower sits (the Moinian site) in relation to the other planned towers along the new Hudson Boulevard and Park.


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The Hudson Yards wars begin to heat up...

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010...side-projects/
Tenant Hunt Is On for Rival Office Projects.




By Eliot Brown
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Commercial rents in New York are down more than 30% from their 2008 peak, vacancy is a relatively high 9% and construction financing is hard to come by. But that hasn’t stopped some large developers from dusting off their 2007-era plans to construct new office buildings.

The ever-active Related Cos. is now pushing its planned $15 billion development at Manhattan’s West Side rail yards on the office broker community, in an attempt to find one or two tenants who could occupy about one million square feet and anchor a first tower.

As it turns out, Related has some competition — and from a rival, no less.

Landlord Joseph Moinian, who is currently fighting back an attempt by Related CEO Stephen Ross to foreclose on and demolish his 3 Columbus Circle office building, said Wednesday that he, too, is planning a tenant search for a tower that will rise just north of the Related site.

“We are going to be marketing very soon,” he said. “Leasing reports on office buildings are showing signs of life.”


Development may not be the first word that jumps to mind when talking about Moinian, who is scrambling to shore up a multitude of overleveraged buildings bought or refinanced near the market’s peak. But with fundamentals gradually rising and a possible completion date now three to four years out — should Moinian secure a tenant — he said wants to start pushing his tower.

His site sits on a block between 34th and 35th Streets, bordered by 11th Avenue and Hudson Boulevard — the yet-to-be-built park that would rise to the north of the rail yards. The 1.6 million square foot office tower has been on the drawing board for more than five years, put into hibernation by the recession.

“We have a great land cost here. And we have certainly the best location because we are sitting, A) on top of the train, B) on the boulevard, and C) the most important thing is that we are sitting exactly across from Javits, where our views are unobstructed forever.”


Developers, of course, are by nature bubbling with optimism and only restrained from putting up empty office buildings left and right by lenders who — at least for the moment — want to see large tenant commitments at high rents before they hand over money to start construction.

There are a few other large office development sites vying for would-be tenants, including a Boston Properties site at 55th Street and Eighth Avenue (it nearly began construction before it was abruptly canceled when a tenant deal fell through in 2009), Vornado’s 15 Penn Plaza site, and a site on the far west side owned by Extell Development.

Two World Trade Center towers are going up in Lower Manhattan as well — and another will begin rising if Larry Silverstein finds a large tenant and can raise capital.
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I love this design!

its simple yet elegant, and it twists very slightly.

just perfection!
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Old Posted Dec 25, 2010, 1:32 PM
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I love this design!

its simple yet elegant, and it twists very slightly.
just perfection!

Still a little awkward for me because of its size. But, it will be in an area of equally large towers. It's an interesting tower, and as Moinian pointed out,
it will always have riverfront views because of it's location. It reminds me in a way of the Sears/Willis Tower.




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[QUOTE=NYguy;5104982]Still a little awkward for me because of its size. But, it will be in an area of equally large towers. It's an interesting tower, and as Moinian pointed out,
it will always have riverfront views because of it's location. It reminds me in a way of the Sears/Willis Tower.[

pfff, nah we'll build man made islands with supertalls on the Hudson just like Dubai. then all it'll have is skyscraper views.
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pfff, nah we'll build man made islands with supertalls on the Hudson just like Dubai. then all it'll have is skyscraper views.
Yeah, who knows. When Hudson Yards is built out, all options could be on the table. There was brief talk of another "Battery Park City" built on landfill, and the City has a history of it. Still though, it could be another Westway war.
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It will be very interesting to see the battle of these two towers and which one gets up first...



http://therealdeal.com/newyork/artic...orthy-projects
Will Related stay on track with Hudson Yards?

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At the end of the year, Related began demolishing a 6,000-square-foot industrial structure to make way for a 1.4 million-square-foot office and apartment tower, the Wall Street Journal reported.

But Related's would-be office tenants might be caught in a tug-of-war. Developer Joseph Moinian has said his plans for a new 1.6 million-square-foot office tower nearby on 11th Avenue are finally moving forward.
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^^^^ Oooooh yes. I like this. Lots of competition in NYC!
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^^^^ Oooooh yes. I like this. Lots of competition in NYC!
That story is even more interesting because the developers are locked in a death battle over 3 Columbus Circle...
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The modern day version of the battle between the Empire State Building vs. Chrysler Building.
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