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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/ar...l?ref=nyregion

N.Y.U. Plans to Expand Its Campuses by 40 Percent


On Governors Island, the university envisions an institute that would unite several academic disciplines around a subject like the urban future.


An artist's rendering of part of the Governors Island element in New York University's proposed expansion of its city campuses.


By ROBIN POGREBIN
March 22, 2010

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New York University is proposing the largest expansion in its history, with a new tower on Bleecker Street and three million square feet of new classrooms, dormitories and offices in the Greenwich Village area. The plans also call for creating a new engineering school in Brooklyn and a satellite campus on Governors Island, complete with dorms and faculty housing.

...On Governors Island, the university envisions an institute that would unite several academic disciplines around a subject like the urban future. “What does it mean in the 21st century to build a great city?” Mr. Sexton said. “Let’s be the lab and thinking space for it, the center in the world for thinking about cities.”

The university’s plan for Governors Island must compete with other proposals that will be submitted to the Governors Island Preservation and Education Corporation, a city-state partnership.
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I started a thread on this yesterday, I knew there was a better option to include it under. Mods can delete the thread in "city discussions" at there discretion.
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I started a thread on this yesterday, I knew there was a better option to include it under. Mods can delete the thread in "city discussions" at there discretion.
This thread is about the development of Governors Island in general, not about the NYU expansion, which is taking place accross the city.
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hmm...an island of supertalls would be nice
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i'm waiting for the days when passenger jets have vertical take off and landing... then build an underground airport terminal just south of Liggett Hall. airplanes would descend into a large circular hole in the ground, then a heavy metal door would clank shut, very scify-y
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hmm...an island of supertalls would be nice
The MTVA (metropolitan television alliance) tried to get a 2,000 ft broadcasting tower built there, but Bloomberg was fully against it. Latery they tried to get it built in Jersey City, and then Bayonne before finally agreeing to go back to the WTC site. That agreement hasn't been finalized.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/ny...island.html?hp

City Takes Over Governors Island
By A. G. SULZBERGER and MICHAEL BARBARO
Published: April 11, 2010

After months of negotiations, New York City has reached a deal to take control of Governors Island from the state, moving a prime 172-acre piece of waterfront real estate into the hands of a land-starved city and closer to an ambitious redevelopment, city and state officials announced on Sunday.

As part of the announcement, the city unveiled a new plan to continue to redevelop much of the island as a public park, adding amenities, green space and making improvements to the 2.2-mile promenade that offers sweeping views of New York Harbor. The city, which will be primarily responsible for developing and operatingthe island, said it has already committed $41.5 million to the project.

The proposed redevelopment of Governors Island would be a major contribution to the physical legacy of the Bloomberg administration, which has made the expansion of public parks a priority. It also may reinforce the mayor’s reputation for using the troubled economy to wrest control of coveted items from the state portfolio.
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That's good news. Finally we can get on with the master plan for the island...

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/..._makeover.html
State hands over control of Governor's Island to the city for makeover

BY Erin Einhorn
April 11th 2010

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A few renderings from the city's press release...

LIBERTY TERRACE


THE HILLS


THE HAMMOCK GROVE


WESTERN PROMENADE - LOWER LEVEL












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not bad! govs island is an architect's playground -- its almost a tabula rasa for redevelopment. someday it'll be interesting to compare these visions with what actually gets built out.
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not bad! govs island is an architect's playground -- its almost a tabula rasa for redevelopment.
Not so much. It's actually very limited to what can be built there, and for good reason. But I believe the City will do a very good job, based on renderings from the Brooklyn Bridge Park, and early returns on openings there, I expect to get just what we're seeing. Most impressive for me would be watching those "hills" get built from the rubble of the buildings that have to be demolished down at the southern end of the island.
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Uh, whats up with the random hills? Governors Island never had hills like that in the past, kinda strange.
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Uh, whats up with the random hills? Governors Island never had hills like that in the past, kinda strange.
Read previous post...

The planned hills are to afford better views of the harbor. At the other end of the harbor, on Staten Island, the hills are natural, so it won't seem unusual.


http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/201...HOW_index.html


A computer rendering of the aerial view of the Governors Island proposal.


A rendering of the South Battery view.


A rendering of Hammock Grove, which will have shade and lawns and hammocks for relaxing, on Governors Island.


A rendering the Western promenade, lower level, looking towards lower Manhattan.


A rendering of the upper western promenade.


The hills draw visitors down a pathway into a canyon-like landscape toward the harbor.


Scenic views from the hills showing the Statue of Liberty, at left, to the shores of lower Manhattan.


A rendering of baseball fields.


A rendering of bicycle paths.


A rendering of the parade ground area.


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Governors Island Vision Adds Hills and Hammocks

By NICOLAI OUROUSSOFF
April 12, 2010


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When the federal government sold Governors Island to the City and State of New York for one dollar in January 2003, it wasn’t clear who had gotten the short end of the stick.

Was it really worth a dollar? Few people had visited the island since it was abandoned by the Coast Guard in 1997. For those who could get onto it, the charm of the 19th- and early-20th-century military buildings on the north end wore off as soon as they saw the southern end, a flat sprawl of concrete barracks and warehouses from the 1970s and ’80s.

...But Sunday’s announcement that the City of New York has reached a deal to take control of the island from the state and will push ahead with a plan that includes a 2.2-mile-long waterfront promenade and a 40-acre park, offers reassuring evidence that even in difficult times it is possible to get the tricky balance between public good and private interests right — or at least right enough.

The plan, by Adriaan Geuze of the Dutch landscape architecture firm West 8, calls for a park that, if realized, will eventually include a cluster of steep, artificially created hills that form a focal point at the park’s center, visually tying it back to the city. Its wildly original array of parkscapes — including a “hammock grove,” a grottolike shelter, playing fields and marshlands — will give the island the kind of strong identity it currently lacks. When considered with Michael Van Valkenburgh’s Brooklyn Bridge Park, under construction across the harbor in Brooklyn, it represents a shift in the character of the city’s park system as a whole that is as revolutionary as Robert Moses’ early public works projects or Frederick Law Olmsted and Calvert Vaux’s Central Park.

The city has committed $41.5 million to the first phase of the development, which still has to go through the standard public review process, and is tentatively scheduled to begin construction in 2012. A new ferry landing area is to be built at the northern end of the island, with a big shaded lawn overlooking the Lower Manhattan skyline. The northern half of the Great Promenade, which will eventually encircle the entire island, will allow people to stroll along the waterfront under a shaded walkway with views that reach from the Statue of Liberty to Brooklyn Heights. And the city will replace the asphalt parking lot on the south side of McKim, Mead & White’s 1929 Liggett Hall, an old Army barracks that divides the island in half: visitors passing through the hall’s central archway will emerge onto a mosaic terrace bordered by flower beds.

It is from here that the development’s second phase — for which the city will need to raise some $220 million — should eventually unfold. Pathways will wind south through a wild array of sloping lawns and densely wooded areas, with the hills just beyond them in the near distance. Scores of hammocks will be suspended in a forest of oak and birch trees. In a rendering that shows the hammocks sagging under the weight of people napping inside them, they bring to mind human-size cocoons.

This processional narrative reaches its climax with the hills, which will be partly built on the rubble left over from the demolition of the Coast Guard barracks and warehouses. Some will drop off into cliffs on one side, creating “view channels” to major landmarks: for example, one path cuts through a narrow canyon that lines up with the statue of Liberty; another looks out toward the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. A paved terrace, with a 360-degree view of the island’s surroundings, tops the tallest hill; a more informal meadow another.

To the west, a cafe structure designed by the architecture firm Diller Scofidio & Renfro will sit at the water’s edge, facing the Statue of Liberty. A lawn expands out onto the building’s roof, where visitors will be able to climb down through a large hole into a grotto-like shelter open to the water.

The island’s southern end culminates in a watery landscape of marshes and tidal basins. By now the hills have entirely blocked out the view of the Manhattan skyline. A raised concrete walkway wraps around the marshes at the tip of the island, so that visitors should feel as if the edge of the land were dissolving around them. To add to the sensory experience, Mr. Geuze plans to plant the area with strong-smelling plants, like sea asparagus and lavender.

The movement within the design — the disappearance and reappearance of carefully framed urban views; the shift from a verticality that intentionally echoes the downtown Manhattan skyline to the flatness of the water’s surface — is its single most impressive feature. But such variations also speak to the ways the city itself is changing. The exaggerated steepness of the hills, for example, is not only a clear nod to their artificiality — a “green” counterpoint to Manhattan’s towers — but also a practical response to rising sea levels caused by global warming.

Another positive aspect of the design is the care that has been given to the boundaries that will divide the park from two future development zones on the island’s east and west sides. These lines are gently curved, giving them a more naturalistic feel, and Mr. Geuze has proposed several major view corridors that will cut through the development areas, which should help mitigate their large size...
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A lot more info and pics at the website...
http://www.govislandpark.com/
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Took some time to read through the documents on the website and learned how the redevelopment is planned and both the rationale and method
of constructing the "hills" on the island. Very interesting reads. Taken together with the ongoing Brooklyn Bridge Park development and the
High Line Park, we are seeing that the City can still do great things for its people. What's also great is the fact that most of this is taking place
on "reclaimed" land. From unused piers in Brooklyn, to a closed landfill on Staten Island, and an abandoned rail line in Manhattan. And these are just
the more popular developments. It's a town where people have become so cynical about seeing anything done because many people haven't
witnessed anything. But anyway, I grabbed a few more renderings off of the website...

(West 8 / Rogers Marvel Architects / Diller Scofidio + Renfro / Mathews Nielsen / Urban Design +)


First, I like this location graphic...




Here, the layout of the island unfolds. The grey areas are the areas for private development (NYU has announced it would like to be a part of that.)
Residential uses or casinos won't be allowed.




One of the artificially created hills...




View from the top of the hills...







More park renderings...

























Harbor views in every direction...







Phased planning...





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wowwww ok! at first i hated this whole park plan... but seeing it above in all the different presentations and detail, i gotta say i like it more and more.

the private development parcels excite me the most though and, IMO, they are the more important aspects of the plan.
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wowwww ok! at first i hated this whole park plan... but seeing it above in all the different presentations and detail, i gotta say i like it more and more.

the private development parcels excite me the most though and, IMO, they are the more important aspects of the plan.
Read through those documents, more info and renderings there. It's very interesting the way these things play out. About that private development, it's limited and isn't really essential to the "park" itself. But it will help the island sustain itself.

I can imagine spending the entire day there. On minute you're in the city, the next an island paradise - summer or winter.
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Dammit, I wish I lived in NYC, everything about it is just so fascinating. so the grey areas are going to be residential or something?
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so the grey areas are going to be residential or something?
No residential will be allowed. Those are just the only areas available for private development...

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This Park and Public Space Master Plan was not intended to address the future tenancies in historic buildings or new development. Uses of the Island’s historic buildings, as well as uses and design of the buildings in the 33 acres of southern Island land reserved for development, will be addressed in later phases. The 87 acres of the plan do not include the 33 acres identified as development zones or the acreage of built historic structures (totalling 1.4 million square feet). The plan also does not include the 22 acres managed by NPS.

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I like how these guys are just standing in the wave; not even trying to move out of the way

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