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I didn't bother watching the Bye Bye this year but I heard the basics and that sketch had everything it needed to be a success (of course, it all hinges on execution) by mocking JT on two separate fronts at the same time (in both cases, things for which he didn't exactly shine in 2018).
Don't tell anyone but that was actually one of my favourite sketches of this Bye Bye...
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So the article wasn't actually by Patrick Lagacé but by François Cardinal. Though Lagacé would probably have said the exact same thing But more incisively.
Yup sorry, I'm used to quote Lagacé haha.
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Don't tell anyone but that was actually one of my favourite sketches of this Bye Bye...
As I said, at first sight it had all the ingredients for success, so I'm not surprised

(also, anyone who would think anything bad of you for liking it probably already considered you evil anyways, so it's irrelevant)
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As I said, at first sight it had all the ingredients for success, so I'm not surprised

(also, anyone who would think anything bad of you for liking it probably already considered you evil anyways, so it's irrelevant)
My back is wide. (J'ai le dos large.)
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I don't think immigration needs to be reduced, but we could be doing a better job at attracting better immigrants who integrate better. .

You mean like the people/government in Quebec integrates with English Canada?
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You mean like the people/government in Quebec integrates with English Canada?
If you're seeing the Quebec vs. English Canada issue through the lens of immigration (ie Québécois francophones are recent immigrants to a pre-established English-speaking country called Canada), then you're either not Canadian or maybe 12 years old.

I'll leave it up to you to tell us which one it is...
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Not really surprising, but Montreal Gazette cartoonist Aislin (actually quite the legend) drew up a cartoon comparing the CAQ and the KKK.

The newspaper's editor declined to publish it, but Aislin put it on his social media account anyway.

If you want to see it it's here in this article in French:

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...gnes-religieux

Content in English:

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/queb...gment/15669193
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This is par for the course for Aislin, who was (in)famous for regularly depicting PQ Minister Louise Beaudoin as a leather-clad, whip-swinging Ilsa The She-Wolf of the SS.

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&t...24.FT62bNs-OB0
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If you're seeing the Quebec vs. English Canada issue through the lens of immigration (ie Québécois francophones are recent immigrants to a pre-established English-speaking country called Canada), then you're either not Canadian or maybe 12 years old.

I'll leave it up to you to tell us which one it is...
Some view things through the worldview of "minority/less powerful group must assimilate to majority/more dominant group" (although few would admit to this worldview directly), which is a different lens than "immigrants assimilating to pre-established group", because in the former, it isn't necessarily about who was here first or not, but who's the majority/hegemonic group.

Assimilation isn't always about immigrants vs. "natives", in the eyes of some, and history shows it. The loss or reduction of the Irish, Welsh or Gaelic languages in the UK, or Aboriginal languages, from the New World and Australia to European languages like English and Spanish, and even then the loss of Spanish (and others like Cajun French, Dutch etc.) to English in North America, Uyghurs/Tibetan culture vs. Han Chinese, French regional languages vs. Parisian French are about "assimilation", in many cases, heavily coerced forced assimilation, but the one doing the assimilating isn't the latecomer.

English-speaking Canadians (or English speakers more broadly in the Anglosphere, who are lucky to speak a language that is hegemonic so much that they even expect English in places it's not native to) would rarely admit that assimilating is often about this kind of thing (eg. who's more powerful rather than who is later arriving or earlier arriving) though.
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This is par for the course for Aislin, who was (in)famous for regularly depicting PQ Minister Louise Beaudoin as a leather-clad, whip-swinging Ilsa The She-Wolf of the SS.

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&t...24.FT62bNs-OB0
But, unlike the CAQ/KKK thing, the Mme Beaudoin thing was very funny and well deserved.
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Some view things through the worldview of "minority/less powerful group must assimilate to majority/more dominant group" (although few would admit to this worldview directly), which is a different lens than "immigrants assimilating to pre-established group", because in the former, it isn't necessarily about who was here first or not, but who's the majority/hegemonic group.

Assimilation isn't always about immigrants vs. "natives", in the eyes of some, and history shows it. The loss or reduction of the Irish, Welsh or Gaelic languages in the UK, or Aboriginal languages, from the New World and Australia to European languages like English and Spanish, and even then the loss of Spanish (and others like Cajun French, Dutch etc.) to English in North America, Uyghurs/Tibetan culture vs. Han Chinese, French regional languages vs. Parisian French are about "assimilation", in many cases, heavily coerced forced assimilation, but the one doing the assimilating isn't the latecomer.

English-speaking Canadians (or English speakers more broadly in the Anglosphere, who are lucky to speak a language that is hegemonic so much that they even expect English in places it's not native to) would rarely admit that assimilating is often about this kind of thing (eg. who's more powerful rather than who is later arriving or earlier arriving) though.
It is still an inaccurate view in the sense of the terms with which I described it. Even if some still think national minorities should assimilate.
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