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Old Posted May 31, 2012, 6:56 PM
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What the skyline would look like today had 9/11 never happened.


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Old Posted Jun 13, 2012, 5:31 AM
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I have read several sources that said the rooftop promenade was 1,377 feet above SEA LEVEL. Now I know from a few sources on forums (one of them being STR) that street level of the World Trade Center was 10 feet above sea level so thus that would mean that the rooftop promenade was 1,367 feet above street level. I also came across an article online from 1975 (when the outdoor deck opened) that said the promenade was 12 feet above the roof, now given the sloping hat truss nature of the roof I assume that is 12 feet above the portion of the roof directly underneath the promenade (if you look at pictures it does look like it was 12 feet above) and not the higher center of the roof that would be the very top of the building or 1,362 feet. If the part of the roof right under the promenade was 1,355 feet above street level then add 12 feet you get 1,367 feet above street level then add 10 feet to get 1,377 feet above sea level.

I guess this only matters because it is commonly stated that the south tower's deck was 1,377 (or 1,378 in some sources) feet high but that was above sea level, whereas if you go by the typical definition for measuring building height the deck was 1,367 (or 1,368) feet high. Interestingly enough if you use a nearby waterline as a standard then the Sears Tower's 103rd floor is pretty much exactly 1,377 feet above the waterline of the Chicago River very near it, and if you count Lower Wacker Drive as street level it would also be about the same distance to the Skydeck as the street level was to the rooftop promenade of the south tower of WTC but that doesn't count because lower wacker is below grade and semi-enclosed (but not underground) and thus it is measured from upper wacker which is grade level. So in distance from outdoor street level (grade level) the WTC outdoor deck was higher than the Sears Tower indoor deck but if we go by nearby waterline or lowest street level it was about the same.
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The visual representation of the strength and power of New York. Something that can never be destroyed by a event like 9/11.
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If you see a silhouette of a skyline, and it had two huge rectangles sticking out, you instantly knew it was New York. That was something the Empire state building wasn't always able to do, nor will the new WTC be able to do today. That's how distinct, unique, and dominating the twin towers were.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2012, 7:20 PM
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Completely agree.
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Wonderful. I always thought that the twin towers looked far more elegant in the evening.
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Since this website is older than 9/11, I wonder if there was ever a thread here for the Twin Towers, before their destruction...?
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I doubt it. Most of the building threads here like those for the ESB and Sears Tower have been started years after, but I reckon SSP has changed a lot since then.

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Just want to share this "Man on Wire" movie cover.

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Just want to share this "Man on Wire" movie cover.

You should see this. It was really moving.
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 5:33 AM
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I'll always think that the Twins looked better after the WFC was completed. The Twins were very brutal on their own, but the WFC framing it made for one of the most picturesque skylines.

I think I remember reading somewhere that Cesar Pelli designed the WFC to "balance out the monolithic World Trade Center and humanize the structures."
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Yeah, the WTC and WFC really worked well together, kind of like one of those Japanese Ikebana flower arrangements.
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You should see this. It was really moving.
I actually did. I loved the movie.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2012, 2:20 AM
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I never get tired of seeing them.


WTC 96 by stevensiegel260, on Flickr


Battery Park City 8-25-1980 edited by John S1536, on Flickr


SEP.88 by hedyelyakim, on Flickr


TWIN TOWERS-JUNE 2001 by hedyelyakim, on Flickr
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The perfect and irreplaceable twins. You could have stared at them all day.
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just imagine if 9/11 never happened..the nyc skyline would be extremely differnet..most likely there would be more supertalls because people wouldnt have thought to be scared to build them...now there are more tall buildings being built in nyc
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