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Old Posted Dec 9, 2014, 1:39 AM
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Some of these North York designs are nice, but Hullmark Centre looks soooooo dull IMO.
Really? I think Hullmark Centre is incredible. It looks so corporate and big city.
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2014, 3:37 AM
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Really? I think Hullmark Centre is incredible. It looks so corporate and big city.
That's exactly why I don't like it lol. It looks corporate and boring... Doesn't look like a fun place to work at. But that's just my opinion!
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I disagree. NYCC has some great designs!



Lot's of great activity in this area.
Hullmark loots awesome and so tall here.
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These cluster of buildings look impressive from a distance, but once you get closer, the amount of glass you see is blighting. Guess it's been said hundreds of times, but things never change so I guess it will be said a hundred more times. City planners and developers are incapable of creating vibrant neighbourhoods. And it's not a matter of growing organically. 30 years from now all this glass is going to look even worse. The only hope for an interesting new neighbourhood is to take a run down old neighbourhood and rejuvenate it. This is where you find low scale retail with modulating facades and colours.

The formula is pretty easy. I don't understand why cities continue to build awful, generic structures
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It's because the economic & social environments that created the traditional neighbourhoods are gone.
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City planners and developers are incapable of creating vibrant neighbourhoods.
This isn't true, look at River city, the St. Lawrence market, or Distillery District. It can and is being done. NYCC is pretty successful and you need to remember it sprung out of nothing when the Line 1 subway was extended to Shepherd. For a suburban skyline it's getting some pretty decent designs even when viewed from street level.
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40 years ago the neighborhood was a farm.
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Saw this on Urban Toronto - originally posted by Mafalda Boy there

Diamond Schmitt's design for the Easy Bayfront Innovation Centre

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That's exactly why I don't like it lol. It looks corporate and boring... Doesn't look like a fun place to work at. But that's just my opinion!
I mostly agree. Corporate is usually depressing.

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These cluster of buildings look impressive from a distance, but once you get closer, the amount of glass you see is blighting. Guess it's been said hundreds of times, but things never change so I guess it will be said a hundred more times. City planners and developers are incapable of creating vibrant neighbourhoods. And it's not a matter of growing organically. 30 years from now all this glass is going to look even worse. The only hope for an interesting new neighbourhood is to take a run down old neighbourhood and rejuvenate it. This is where you find low scale retail with modulating facades and colours.

The formula is pretty easy. I don't understand why cities continue to build awful, generic structures
If that were the case then we'd be in serious trouble. Lots of cities are running low on run down historic neighbourhoods.

Luckily it isn't the case, and there's been plenty of successful new neighbourhoods. Downtown Burlington is at least 90% post war and yet it's a fairly charming area. What we need to do with our new neighbourhoods is make them walkable and you'll be able to build a thriving new community. Add in decent transit options and life is good.
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These cluster of buildings look impressive from a distance, but once you get closer, the amount of glass you see is blighting. Guess it's been said hundreds of times, but things never change so I guess it will be said a hundred more times. City planners and developers are incapable of creating vibrant neighbourhoods. And it's not a matter of growing organically. 30 years from now all this glass is going to look even worse. The only hope for an interesting new neighbourhood is to take a run down old neighbourhood and rejuvenate it. This is where you find low scale retail with modulating facades and colours.

The formula is pretty easy. I don't understand why cities continue to build awful, generic structures
Entire neighbourhoods are built of prewar generic brick buildings. Why not one of modern glass structures? What has glass done to you?

Despite the highway running down the middle that predated all those glass towers, NYCC is more vibrant than it ever was with a good mix of chain and independent retail occupying the new podiums.
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40 years ago the neighborhood was a farm.

Try 70.



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Saw this on Urban Toronto - originally posted by Mafalda Boy there

Diamond Schmitt's design for the Easy Bayfront Innovation Centre

Not bad, but the preliminary renderings we saw a while back were a lot more exciting:


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Edmonton in full beast mode now
We've not yet reached our final form.

We reach that point when Swiss Chalet builds a 90 storey sandstone brutalist art piece tower for their headquarters.
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Edmonton in full beast mode now
UofA space dependant on the GOA underwriting their long-term lease... and with Oil what it is... I do wonder.
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2014, 4:26 PM
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We've not yet reached our final form.

We reach that point when Swiss Chalet builds a 90 storey sandstone brutalist art piece tower for their headquarters.
Let me know when that happens, because that's the day I pack my bags and move back there

But seriously though, the amount of development planned and underway must be blowing away even the most optimistic projections of 15 years ago. It is really great to see. I heart downtown Edmonton and I'm excited to see it getting to the next level with these great proposals.
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Try 70.
Are you sure about that?

Take a look at this.


http://www.blogto.com/city/2011/09/w...round_toronto/

or this

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/...to_suburb.html

Can't even call the area suburban, just pure wilderness, with the odd house here and there.
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