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shivtim · #81 Posted **Sep 13, 2010, 5:09 PM**

^ I could not agree more with that article.
However, it doesn't really apply to Atlanta, because our highways that cut apart downtown are sunken rather than elevated. Freeway capping would be appropriate.

dante2308 · #82 Posted **Sep 16, 2010, 3:23 AM**

Just saying, a cool four billion to create a massive traffic jam and a never filled hole where the highway used to be. Do you see anyone rushing to develop that may square miles of land?

I just don't see the point.

shivtim · #83 Posted **Sep 16, 2010, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by dante2308

Just saying, a cool four billion to create a massive traffic jam and a never filled hole where the highway used to be. Do you see anyone rushing to develop that may square miles of land?

I just don't see the point.

Dante, what are you talking about? $4 billion for what? Where?

The article didn't say anything about Atlanta, and I specifically said freeway tear-down doesn't apply to Atlanta. So what are you referring to?

L41A · #84 Posted **Sep 16, 2010, 8:56 PM**

I agree with you ShivTim. That article really doesn't apply to metro Atlanta.

But not only in Downtown Atlanta, almost all of metro Atlanta freeways are surfaced rather than elevated. The only section of freeway that I could think of that is elevated and not part of an interchange is I-85 in Buckhead and its less than a mile long.

dante2308 · #85 Posted **Sep 18, 2010, 8:46 PM**

Oh it's less than a mile long? Well never mind me.

L41A · #86 Posted **Sep 19, 2010, 5:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by dante2308

Oh it's less than a mile long? Well never mind me.

Did you even read the article or just Cybele's editorial introduction to it?(rhetorical)
First off, the title of the article is a question. It speaks of elevated freeways in downtown areas, non-essential and aging sections of Interstate highway system, financial considerations, and community involvement.

I still don't see how your $4billion comment come into play. Or how this article that questions elevated freeway teardown applies to Atlanta, when the only section of elevated freeway is basically a bridge over rail lines and an old alignment section of I-85 (Buford Hwy - SR 13 Connector to Midtown).

Pessimistic Observer · #87 Posted **Sep 29, 2010, 8:26 PM**

an exaustive report on traffic was posted on atlanta business chronicle
heres the link to the article a pdf of the report is at the bottom
http://atlanta.bizjournals.com/atlan...7/daily43.html

cybele · #88 Posted **Oct 18, 2010, 12:40 PM**

Well, is it legal to park on the street everywhere in the ATL or just here there and yonder? And is there a law you can point at if they get after you?

Terminus · #89 Posted **Oct 18, 2010, 3:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by cybele

Well, is it legal to park on the street everywhere in the ATL or just here there and yonder? And is there a law you can point at if they get after you?

It is regulated on a street by street basis.

Unless it is marked no parking, it is legal.

cybele · #90 Posted **Oct 18, 2010, 8:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Terminus

Unless it is marked no parking, it is legal.

Well, I really appreciate that, it sure helps. They have people out there nowadays who will get on a man for nothing.

dante2308 · #91 Posted **Nov 3, 2010, 4:48 PM**

new governor = more highway

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Greater east-west connectivity to supplement our strong north-south corridors. The state needs to find routes, east to west, south of metro Atlanta that will divert some of 100,000 tractor-trailers on clogged Atlanta highways.
-Nathan Deal

Now all those poor trucks trying to travel from southern Alabama to southern Georgia will have their say!

I do wonder where this "100,000" comes from. Those are the total trucks in the Atlanta area? Over what period of time? How many of them could possibly be traveling from Montgomery to Macon? Wouldn't a freight rail line divert many more? Who the hell is paying for this guy's campaign?

cybele · #92 Posted **Mar 9, 2011, 3:07 AM**

Well, here is another one who says they orto tear up the dang downtown Connector. What I want to know is how is a man supposed to get to the airport. Plus all the money that went into it, you have people that don't make a lick of sense.

Where’s the call for dumping Atlanta’s downtown connector?

ATLaffinity · #93 Posted **Mar 10, 2011, 9:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by dante2308

new governor = more highway

Now all those poor trucks trying to travel from southern Alabama to southern Georgia will have their say!

God, they can fuck themselves.

I love that there's never money for trains but we should subsidize out of state truckers.

This is such a low-rent state.

Fiorenza · #94 Posted **Mar 10, 2011, 10:00 PM**

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This is such a low-rent state.

And since when was public transportation considered as high-rent?

ATLaffinity · #95 Posted **Mar 11, 2011, 4:20 PM**

Tom Vanderbilt had a good piece on the irrational hatred of trains by conservatives

Why do conservatives hate trains so much?

"You need to distinguish between Republicans and conservatives and libertarians when you look at this," says William Lind, the director of the American Conservative Center for Public Transportation. "It's the libertarians who push this crap."

Also, TWELVE ANTI-TRANSIT MYTHS: A CONSERVATIVE CRITIQUE

EDIT: Talk about a lonely position. Conservative defender of government spending on rail.

Fiorenza · #96 Posted **Mar 12, 2011, 5:04 AM**

Four words for you: Cost Per Passenger Mile.

ATLaffinity · #97 Posted **Mar 12, 2011, 11:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fiorenza

Four words for you: Cost Per Passenger Mile.

It's all addressed in the above link.

But keep parroting the party line.

Fiorenza · #98 Posted **Mar 13, 2011, 4:15 AM**

Uh, no it hasn't been "addressed"

shivtim · #99 Posted **Oct 5, 2011, 1:04 PM**

WABE story about the Lochner Report:
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wa...CLE_ID=1858585