noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

yet the official name is St. Mary Magdalene Chapel.

That's what I found odd about it.

Is there anyone here that knows the official protocol the Catholics use to designate churches?

[acorn8332]

Originally Posted by Lorendoc

Here is one from the Daily News archive at UCLA. It's a mystery location, the caption only reads "Street scene on foggy and smoggy day in Los Angeles, Calif., 1953."


UCLA Special Collections

The twin version of the Olympic Special appeared to be limited to the block between Figueroa and Flower. Today, only one survives on Olympic Blvd. itself.
The street light has been disfigured with cobras replacing the original teardrops. My photo, Southwest corner of Flower and Olympic, 12/26/16.

[acorn8332]

I might as well post the photos of all three of the twin versions of the Olympic Special. As I previously noted, the only twin that's still on Olympic Blvd. can be found on the Southwest corner of Flower and Olympic. My photos from 12/26/16.








The other downtown example is on the West side of Los Angeles Street, adjacent to City Hall East. The formerly clear globes have recently been replaced with opaque balls, lamped with LED. My photos of 10-12-17.








Finally, the only example that retains the original GE Form 81-D (Ornate) teardrops can now be found in front of the Los Angeles Bureau of Street Lighting Field Operations building at 4550 Santa Monica Blvd. in eastern Hollywood. Until November 2017, the street light was located in the parking lot on the Northeast corner of Vermont and Santa Monica as part of Sheila Kline's 1993 "Vermonica" urban candelabrum. Klein has since disowned the relocated exhibit.

My photo of 07-30-15 when the twin was still located in "Vermonica."



Here's the link to the L.A. Times article about the controversy surrounding the November 2017 move of "Vermonica" to the LABSL office. It appeared in the November 30, 2017 Times under the title "After 24 years at an L.A. strip mall, Sheila Klein's beloved 'Vermonica' light sculpture is moved without notice." The author is Carolina A. Miranda.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...htmlstory.html

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Bristolian

Here's a fantastic photo of the first Super Bowl played at the Coliseum on January 15, 1967 by Sports Illustrated photographer Walter Ioos jr. Quite a bit has changed between then and the game played today in Minneapolis.


http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/...um-6516484.php
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Agree! Great photo. Look at all the empty seats, can you imagine that now? Your link says: "Only 61,946 fans were in the stands of the 100,000-seat Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum for the game.
Some were put off by the $12 top ticket price." Plus, the game was blocked out from broadcast in Los Angeles within a 75 mile radius.

The Coliseum has had some fantastic sports moments! Two Super Bowls ('67 and '73) two Olympics ('32, '84 and a third to come)
and, improbably, a World Series ('59):


https://www.google.com/tbs=sbi:AMhZZitZclTyJcU1tqvm9dcH2owAM0_1f_1GeyskbJOrtXRBY96FpTpN9IW-BwICQ

[Mstimc]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

yet the official name is St. Mary Magdalene Chapel.

That's what I found odd about it.

Is there anyone here that knows the official protocol the Catholics use to designate churches?

Based purely on my memory from St. Boniface School and the Dominican Sisters who tried to drum their dogma into my head:

In no particular order:

Cathedral: The home church of a Bishop. A cathedra is the Bishop's seat in the church's sanctuary. Cathedrals are usually--but not always--large churches. Every Cardinal in the RC church is assigned a cathedral in Rome. In his role as the Bishop of Rome, the Pope's church is St. John Lateran.

Basilica can be any church so designated by the Vatican as a place of pilgrimage or special importance. Again, can be any size anywhere.

Church is....a church. With an assigned priest in charge.

A mission has a new meaning connected with its old one. No longer the big rancho of California fame, a mission is more like a small church with no full-time assigned priest, usually associated with rural or remote locations.

A chapel is a specially designated worship space and can be associated with a private space (such as our example here), or one that houses a relic of special significance, or a space attached to another building that's not necessarily used for religious purposes (hence chapels in hospitals). One of my sisters-in-law is a Carmelite nun and their "chapel" is a large church in Durate next to what was a hospital but is now an assisted living facility.

I think that covers it....

[ethereal_reality]

I appreciate your help Mstimc. -quite interesting.
(it took me a second to figure out how a nun could be a sister-in-law. lol) duh
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Thanks for the follow-up on the Palm Garden Dancing Pavilion FW. (and Palace Stables)

originally posted by Flyingwedge / detail



Here's an amusing story of three boys hi-jacking a horse and buggy from the Palace Stables.
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Los Angeles Herald May 22, 1912




*Nome is a former settlement that was located on the Southern Pacific Railroad 2 miles northwest of Bakersfield)

The boys should have hopped a boxcar. (no need for feed and grease)

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[Lorendoc]

Here's one from the LAT archives at UCLA. It is captioned: City street scene with neon signs of bars, hotels and theatres along skid row in Los Angeles, Calif., 1965


Special Collections, UCLA

The Funland Arcade was at 456 S. Main in the 1962 CD, so we're looking south just above 5th St. I won't waste bandwith with a "now," because the current view is about 1000% less interesting.

Thanks acorn8332 for the street lamp lore.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

The Coliseum has had some fantastic sports moments! Two Super Bowls ('67 and '73) two Olympics ('32, '84 and a third to come)
and, improbably, a World Series ('59):


https://www.google.com/tbs=sbi:AMhZZitZclTyJcU1tqvm9dcH2owAM0_1f_1GeyskbJOrtXRBY96FpTpN9IW-BwICQ

Wow, great photo! I don't remember ever seeing a photo with the Dodgers sign above the Coliseum scoreboard.
Sandy Koufax was the losing pitcher in the pictured Game 5 of the 1959 Series, 1-0. On May 7, 1959, the Dodgers
lost to the Yankees 6-2 at the Coliseum in an exhibition game to benefit former Dodgers catcher Roy Campanella.
A then-record 93,103 attended, including my uncle, who kept his program:




From the program, a young Vinny and the late Jerry Doggett:



FW Photos


The Coliseum used to be known for non-Olympics Track and Field as well, before the sport declined
(and the Coliseum's track was removed when the field was lowered to improve sight lines for football).

Next year, after 95 years as the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, the structure will be known as the
United Airlines Memorial Coliseum. Thanks for showing such good taste, USC!

[ethereal_reality]

The other night I watched Columbo episode "Murder in Malibu" (you haven't lived until you see Andrew Stevens plant a big passionate kiss on Brenda Vaccaro. )


The Stevens' character drove this 1969 Jaguar XK-E (I looked it up ) -that's where I found the pic.


IMDB

I'm curious about that garishly painted building in the backgound. It was used as a diner in the episode.

Does anyone recognize it?

IMDB lists four locations in the L.A. area that were used in the "Murder in Malibu" episode
but none of them give a specific location for this building.

sidenote:
If I'm not mistaken, I have seen other 1980s movies use this place as a location.

[ethereal_reality]

and who can forget Andrew Stevens' real life mom.


retrogirl








here's a hint.


giphy

[ethereal_reality]

oops. delete

[Otis Criblecoblis]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Next year, after 95 years as the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, the structure will be known as the
United Airlines Memorial Coliseum. Thanks for showing such good taste, USC!

As a Trojan, I'd like to mount a defense here. . . but I sadly cannot, because you are right. It is disgusting how ravenously acquistitonal my alma mater has become.

Just as the Knights Templar were eventually knocked off their pedestal, so should the universities be. TAX THE BLACKGUARDS!!

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The other night I watched Columbo episode "Murder in Malibu" (you haven't lived until you see Andrew Stevens plant a big passionate kiss on Brenda Vaccaro. )

The Stevens' character drove this 1969 Jaguar XK-E (I looked it up ) -that's where I found the pic.


IMCDB

I'm curious about that garishly painted building in the backgound. It was used as a diner in the episode.

Does anyone recognize it?

IMDB lists four locations in the L.A. area that were used in the "Murder in Malibu" episode
but none of them give a specific location for this building.

sidenote:
If I'm not mistaken, I have seen other 1980s 'movies' use this place as a location.

One more thing...

When I checked my DVD of that episode, I found that the picture above has been cropped, and the word "Jacks" is visible on the tower with another word over it. A little Googling found Cadillac Jack's at 9475 San Fernando Road, Sun Valley, right next to the Pink Motel.


GSV

The drive-in has made several on-screen appearances, and the neon looks good. The image below is from a 2011 movie called "High Road".


90210locations.info

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

*Nome is a former settlement that was located on the Southern Pacific Railroad 2 miles northwest of Bakersfield)

The boys should have hopped a boxcar. (no need for feed and grease)

I'm glad you clarified the location, e_r. I had visions of the boys heading for Alaska with a horse and buggy .

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis

As a Trojan, I'd like to mount a defense here. . . but I sadly cannot, because you are right. It is disgusting how ravenously acquistitonal my alma mater has become.

Just as the Knights Templar were eventually knocked off their pedestal, so should the universities be. TAX THE BLACKGUARDS!!
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I hate associating business names with venues. I recently overheard some people talking about venues the Academy Awards had been held at over the years. They got into a slight disagreement about whether or not The Dolby Theatre and the Kodak Theatre were different locations.

The Chinese Theatre (formerly Mann's, formerly Grauman's) sold naming rights to the TCL Corporation, a Chinese electronics manufacturer and now it's officially the TCL Chinese Theatre. What I don't get is why, say, when reporters are there covering a premiere or handprint ceremony...why don't they just call it the Chinese Theatre. Is there some requirement they have to say TCL Chinese Theatre? I wouldn't.

I will never say I'm going to the United Airlines Memorial Coliseum. By the way, why would an airline want to have the word memorial after it? Strange.

I suppose renovations are needed for the old girl, but I don't consider "suites, loge boxes, club seats, a concourse and a press box" renovations. The one thing most fans who've ever been to the Coliseum might want is some sort of shade protection, though that would alter it's look considerably.

In the article link it says one of the items will be: "A restoration of the peristyle to more closely resemble its original design." The rendering doesn't look much different to me so I'm not clear about it's original design to what it is now. Anyone else know?

Another item that caught my eye in the article: "The stadium's seating capacity will be reduced from 93,607 to 77,500 when the changes are complete." 16,107 less seats.

[JimCraig]

Originally Posted by Mstimc

Based purely on my memory from St. Boniface School and the Dominican Sisters who tried to drum their dogma into my head:

In no particular order:

Cathedral: The home church of a Bishop. A cathedra is the Bishop's seat in the church's sanctuary. Cathedrals are usually--but not always--large churches. Every Cardinal in the RC church is assigned a cathedral in Rome. In his role as the Bishop of Rome, the Pope's church is St. John Lateran.

Basilica can be any church so designated by the Vatican as a place of pilgrimage or special importance. Again, can be any size anywhere.

Church is....a church. With an assigned priest in charge.

A mission has a new meaning connected with its old one. No longer the big rancho of California fame, a mission is more like a small church with no full-time assigned priest, usually associated with rural or remote locations.

A chapel is a specially designated worship space and can be associated with a private space (such as our example here), or one that houses a relic of special significance, or a space attached to another building that's not necessarily used for religious purposes (hence chapels in hospitals). One of my sisters-in-law is a Carmelite nun and their "chapel" is a large church in Durate next to what was a hospital but is now an assisted living facility.

I think that covers it....

The Dominicans would be proud to see how much you retained of what they taught you.

[CityBoyDoug]

What a renovated Coliseum might look like. Thousands of seat eliminated and replaced by a new added structure.


http://coliseumrenovation.com/sites/...-slider-v4.jpg

Proposed addition....a nod to the high-rollers.


http://www.sportsfeatures.com/PressP...pic-image1.PNG

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

After 95 years as the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, the structure will be known as the
United Airlines Memorial Coliseum. Thanks for showing such good taste, USC!

At least the massive scoreboard and videoboard have been removed from atop the peristyle.

awful

youtube screengrab




Does anyone know if the central part of the peristyle is hollow? -or is there just enough room for wiring and what-not.

note the door-like opening to the right of my red arrow.


youtube screengrab


and here's the earliest view of the peristyle known to man.


youtube screengrab



Watch the brief [1:14] video below.

• Video Link
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I am briefly going far afield for a moment.

Selling the naming rights to Memorial Stadium stinks to high heaven, but as everyone knows, it's happening all around.

Near my hometown, the iconic Assembly Hall at the University of Illinois was renamed the State Farm Center (they dropped the name Assembly Hall completely )


historic images

I was only three years old when the Assembly Hall was completed, but every time my family passed by it, or attended an event there
like the Ice Capades, Barnum & Bailey Circus etc., my imagination soared to new heights.
It was like a massive flying saucer had landed in the cornfields!

and at night it looked like it's about to take off!



So yes, the Assembly Hall was sadly renamed...but the university also considered tearing it down (which is unf*cking-believeable )

If interested, you can learn more about the construction of the massive 4,400 ton dome HERE.
*The Assembly Hall was designed by U of I alumnus Max Abramovitz, of Harrison & Abramovitz, NYC.

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OK, OK....back to our beloved Los Angeles

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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I was only three years old when the Assembly Hall was completed, but every time my family passed by it, or attended an event there (Ice Capades),
my imagination soared to new heights. It was like a massive flying saucer had landed in the cornfields!


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I saw the Ice Capades at the Univ. Illinois in 1964 when I was a student.
An audacious undergrad friend of mine went backstage and assumingly invited the skaters to his house for an after-show party but they bluntly declined.

My gym class that year was a lot of fun....ice skating. I went to ice skating the afternoon of Nov. 22, 1963 ... the lady coach announced "no class today".., sent us home.


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[ethereal_reality]

Hoss, thanks for locating the 'mystery' building from Columbo: Murder in Malibu. I was stumped.


re: hi-jacking of the Palace Stables' horse and buddy.

Originally Posted by HossC

I'm glad you clarified the location, e_r. I had visions of the boys heading for Alaska with a horse and buggy .

lol. When I read the article...I was like....Nome?......Nome, Alaska!?!?
(that 50lb bag of feed wouldn't have gotten them very far )

That said, I was surprised by how well the leader of the three boys had co-ordinated his crime.
I mean, he even went on a dry run the day before to gain trust from the owner of Palace Stables (not to mention the use of an alias and the coordinating of supplies)
That's pretty smart for a 12 yr old!

I wonder what eventually became of four foot tall 'Leon Plumstead/Jackson'?
I'd say he either turned out really really good....or really really bad. I doubt there was any inbetween for the kid.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

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Is this you ice skating CBD?