New BC Ferries

[officedweller]

New thread for the new BC Ferries being built in Poland:

Originally Posted by officedweller

Of interest - article on the new ferries:

http://www.remontowa-rsb.pl/b615/1/



http://www.remontowa-rsb.pl/rsb-news-en/


http://www.remontowa-rsb.pl/rsb-news-en/

[officedweller]

http://www.remontowa-rsb.pl/files/pd...ingNews_12.pdf

First steel cut for the ferries January 16th, 2015:

http://www.remontowa-rsb.pl/newss/vi...anadian-ferry-



http://www.remontowa-rsb.pl/newss/vi...anadian-ferry-

[trofirhen]

As these ferries seem smaller, and therefore not geared for Strait of Georgia crossings,
where might they be put in service? Gulf Islands? Comox to Powell River? ...

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

As these ferries seem smaller, and therefore not geared for Strait of Georgia crossings,
where might they be put in service? Gulf Islands? Comox to Powell River? ...

I know this was discussed in another thread before, but anyway:
https://www.bcferries.com/bcferries/...ents?id=856428

Two of the new ships will replace the 49-year old Queen of Burnaby, which sails between
Comox and Powell River and the 50-year old Queen of Nanaimo, which services the
Tsawwassen – Southern Gulf Islands route. The third vessel will augment peak and shoulder
season service on the Southern Gulf Islands route, plus provide refit relief around the fleet.
These new 105 metre vessels will accommodate 145 vehicles and 600 passengers.

[GeeCee]

Not a big fan of the open hulled ships..

[connect2source]

Looks slightly smaller than the Queen of Nanaimo / Burnaby which they're replacing.

Queen of Nanaimo : 192 Cars, 129.96m in length
New Builds : 145 Cars ( plus commercial trailers ), 107.4m length

They're likely a more efficient use of passenger space though, looks to have a little less outdoor deck space as well. The double-ended design should make for faster departures too, if anyone has travelled the Southern Gulf Islands route on the Queen of Nanaimo, the frequent stops require a lot of time consuming 'backing out' and maneuvering.

BC Ferries Website, Queen of Nanaimo Stats.
http://www.bcferries.com/onboard-exp...f_nanaimo.html

[st7860]

LNG propulsion -- using BC resources?

[TransitJack]

Originally Posted by connect2source

Looks slightly smaller than the Queen of Nanaimo / Burnaby which they're replacing.

Queen of Nanaimo : 192 Cars, 129.96m in length
New Builds : 145 Cars ( plus commercial trailers ), 107.4m length

They're likely a more efficient use of passenger space though, looks to have a little less outdoor deck space as well. The double-ended design should make for faster departures too, if anyone has travelled the Southern Gulf Islands route on the Queen of Nanaimo, the frequent stops require a lot of time consuming 'backing out' and maneuvering.

BC Ferries Website, Queen of Nanaimo Stats.
http://www.bcferries.com/onboard-exp...f_nanaimo.html

Exactly. Makes a lot more sense to have a double ended ferry for the Gulf Island hopper service.

[Procrastinational]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

As these ferries seem smaller, and therefore not geared for Strait of Georgia crossings,
where might they be put in service? Gulf Islands? Comox to Powell River? ...

They actually have a fairly aggressive hull design, especially relative to the current ferries serving the intended routes so they should be fine across the Strait.

Originally Posted by GeeCee

Not a big fan of the open hulled ships..

It's not necessarily pretty, but it's a very practical design.

[officedweller]

http://worldmaritimenews.com/archive...sh-class-ship/

BC Ferries Names Its First Salish-Class Ship
November 27, 2015

Canadian ferry operator BC Ferries held a naming ceremony for its first Salish-Class vessel at Remontowa Shipbuilding S.A. in Gdansk, Poland earlier this week.

The new ferry, christened Salish Orca, will replace the 50-year-old Queen of Burnaby on the Comox – Powell River route after it joins the BC Ferries’ fleet in late 2016.

Featuring dual-fuel, Salish Orca is capable of running on liquefied natural gas (LNG) or ultralow sulphur diesel.

Three ships are currently under construction, with the other ships, Salish Eagle and Salish Raven, set to enter operations in the Southern Gulf Islands in 2017.

Using primarily LNG to fuel the news ships will result in reduced emissions and reduced costs for BC Ferries.

...

http://worldmaritimenews.com/archive...sh-class-ship/

[Infrequent Poster]

Now if only the Canadian Navy could follow suit and purchase ships from an established shipbuilding country. Perhaps we could get well equipped and reasonably priced ships in a timely fashion. Instead we end up on the hook for 947 quadzillion dollars for an ever decreasing amount of ships in a timeline that just keeps stretching further and further into the future.....

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by Infrequent Poster

Now if only the Canadian Navy could follow suit and purchase ships from an established shipbuilding country. Perhaps we could get well equipped and reasonably priced ships in a timely fashion. Instead we end up on the hook for 947 quadzillion dollars for an ever decreasing amount of ships in a timeline that just keeps stretching further and further into the future.....

I'm pretty sure the current debacle with the Navy is because they are military. Land of 20$ hammers and such. That is another example of looking at something built in another country and going "we can do it for the same right?"

Having BC Ferries outsource to another country is inconsequential to everyone except for the local shipbuilders who have these expensive military contracts anyway.

[GeeCee]

Huh. I understand why it's unpainted, but.. it seems odd that it had the name already on it but removed?

[Gordon]

There will be bow & stern doors ue to the fact that they will be crossing the strait

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Infrequent Poster

Now if only the Canadian Navy could follow suit and purchase ships from an established shipbuilding country. Perhaps we could get well equipped and reasonably priced ships in a timely fashion. Instead we end up on the hook for 947 quadzillion dollars for an ever decreasing amount of ships in a timeline that just keeps stretching further and further into the future.....

I'm sure the Navy envisions some future in which Russia invades the old Soviet republics, including Poland, and somehow has the complete plans to our warships.

I don't know what the right plan is, since even partnering with our NATO buddies including the US only gets other boondoggles like the F35s...

[city-dweller]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

Huh. I understand why it's unpainted, but.. it seems odd that it had the name already on it but removed?

I was wondering that too. I wonder if it is to make the name standout from a distance once painted later.

[GeeCee]

Originally Posted by city-dweller

I was wondering that too. I wonder if it is to make the name standout from a distance once painted later.

You can make the BC Ferries logo out faintly on the side too. I wonder if it's just wrapped in something for the journey to BC from Poland.

[officedweller]

The official news release has a pic of the other side of the ship and the names are coloured in.

http://www.bcferries.com/bcferries/f...ents?id=932149

[phesto]

Maybe a stupid question, but how do they get the ships here from Poland? Do they sail them here? Or are they shipped/pulled etc.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by phesto

Maybe a stupid question, but how do they get the ships here from Poland? Do they sail them here? Or are they shipped/pulled etc.

The previous ferries we bought from Europe prior to the Olympics were driven here. There's no reason not to unless there's no way to store enough fuel for the trans-atlantic portion. These new ferries are LNG... which means they might not be able to be fueled for such a trip. So it's likely they get towed if there isn't a way to temporary store fuel on the car deck or something.