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Old Posted Mar 1, 2018, 5:50 PM
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Toronto is seriously big league in terms of the sheet volume and scale of the projects going up. At this pace you start to wonder when some self obsessed business magnate decides he wants a 400-500 metre vanity tower
I don't know, the drive for ever-greater heights seems to at least partly be due to a level of insecurity. Hence why so many 300m+ buildings going up in places like China, there is definitely a desire to show how modern and advanced their countries are.

I don't see this in Toronto, the decision-makers are already quite secure in themselves, and make these types of decisions based on the projected economics, not on vanity. Hence why they are perfectly comfortable announcing projects just barely short of some impressive even number (such as 300m) in height. It is simply not a serious factor in the decision.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2018, 5:56 PM
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I think the best bet for a tower or towers reaching those heights would be residential. People willing to pay big bucks for a view. Kind of like what's going on in NYC these days.
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I don't know, the drive for ever-greater heights seems to at least partly be due to a level of insecurity. Hence why so many 300m+ buildings going up in places like China, there is definitely a desire to show how modern and advanced their countries are.

I don't see this in Toronto, the decision-makers are already quite secure in themselves, and make these types of decisions based on the projected economics, not on vanity. Hence why they are perfectly comfortable announcing projects just barely short of some impressive even number (such as 300m) in height. It is simply not a serious factor in the decision.
Well said. Toronto developers aren't in it for height or vanity.

400 metres isn't just a 300 metre tower with 100 more metres or a 200 metre tower times two.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2018, 6:34 PM
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I think the best bet for a tower or towers reaching those heights would be residential. People willing to pay big bucks for a view. Kind of like what's going on in NYC these days.
I don't agree. Better chance of a large corporation seeking a signature tower with higher floor heights, atriums, crowns, flagpoles than a condo tower with a 100 units starting at $10 million a piece.
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Melbourne and Sydney are seeing residential towers come pretty close, so there is a chance TO could see a residential tower reach that height.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2018, 7:41 PM
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I don't agree. Better chance of a large corporation seeking a signature tower with higher floor heights, atriums, crowns, flagpoles than a condo tower with a 100 units starting at $10 million a piece.
Not many of those corporations left in Canada.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2018, 8:13 PM
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Lol. There's even fewer 8 digit condos selling on the lower floors, middle floors and, sub penthouse floors in a high rise.
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Melbourne and Sydney are seeing residential towers come pretty close, so there is a chance TO could see a residential tower reach that height.

I could see it happen in about 10 years or so. Possible some sort of mixed use structure as well.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2018, 11:58 PM
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First I would like to see some more movement on the scads of proposed towers. So many major proposals stacked up, so little visible progress. The One apparently in limbo for now; One Yonge, site cleared, but that's it. M + G, fuggedaboudit. Yonge/Carlton: who knows what's doing?
At least CIBC Square is moving along at a good clip.
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The One is in limbo??
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The One is in limbo??
I don't really agree with what Gresto said. It's just.....had a break here and there, presumably for back door discussions and hassling over permits. There's active shoring going on, per UT updates.....but I do see your point Gresto.
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2018, 2:15 AM
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2018, 2:59 AM
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I don't really agree with what Gresto said. It's just.....had a break here and there, presumably for back door discussions and hassling over permits. There's active shoring going on, per UT updates.....but I do see your point Gresto.
Good point. Thanks for clearing my cobwebs. It does seem to be moving very slowly, but I'm admittedly impatient.
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Here is my early draft of the new 400:



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Old Posted Mar 2, 2018, 6:59 AM
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Lol. There's even fewer 8 digit condos selling on the lower floors, middle floors and, sub penthouse floors in a high rise.

This 38-storey condo is mostly made up of $12M half-floor units

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Ya they exist and as more foreign money ends up in our big cities these types of buildings will be more common.
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2018, 3:30 PM
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This 38-storey condo is mostly made up of $12M half-floor units

And that one would need 130 floors to reach 400 meters. Not exactly what I had in mind. I guess I should have been more clear.
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2018, 3:33 PM
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Fucking Kirkor. I knew that would happen.
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400 Front - it's Kirkor


what are the twin towers on left side of the pic?
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That's the early render for the 400 Front twins. Those are literally the renders for the project.
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