LAS VEGAS | Boom Project Rundown! 2.0

[brandoncdg]

I can't imagine jumping off of the Stratosphere. I wish they had put in that freefall ride too. Hopefully everyone who visits Vegas gets a chance to ride that claw ride, since you have an awesome view of the city.

[CHAPINM1]

Originally Posted by Krases

If they ever do go ahead with IAH, the surrounding area really needs to be prevented from developing too much. Large airports that are well removed from nearby cities tend to have little satellite cities pop-up around them.

Instead I would say that if the high speed rail network goes through the IAH, no more stops would occur between Vegas and IAH to reduce the potential for satellite communities popping up. I would even go as far as to say extend the monorail out to the IAH.

It all depends if the IAH is going to be a small relief airport that only sees maybe 10 million passengers per year, then IAH will simply be linked to Vegas via the 15.

It's unlikely, but I always wondered how cool it would be if McCarren was outright replaced by the Ivanpah airport. No noise. Maybe fewer height limitations on buildings. Then again it might damage our ability to be a transportation center.

Ivanpah (IVP) IS A MUST! Not only will their be much needed relief of air traffic in and out of McCarran, but the runways at McCarran are not sufficient to accommodate all types of aircraft. There WILL inevitably need to be an airport that serves Las Vegas that will have runways that are feasible enough to accommodate the new A380 aircraft and we can guarantee that somewhere down the road that will be an issue.

I agree that there should be a train/tram service out to IVP. The city of Las Vegas needs to get their shit together and work on the continuous expansions of the monorail, with an extension to McCarran being first priority. Also, it is important as you say that no major development spurs up around IVP, because since IVP will be the priority concern and use of land, there will need to be room for future expansion of IVP when that may ever happen.

[ScottG]

check this out:

real thing or just someone having fun?


http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php...llery_id=11435

http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php...llery_id=11439

[mac78130]

Originally Posted by ScottG

check this out:

real thing or just someone having fun?


http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php...llery_id=11435

http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php...llery_id=11439

That's really cool Great Find!!!

[Krases]

Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

Ivanpah (IVP) IS A MUST! Not only will their be much needed relief of air traffic in and out of McCarran, but the runways at McCarran are not sufficient to accommodate all types of aircraft. There WILL inevitably need to be an airport that serves Las Vegas that will have runways that are feasible enough to accommodate the new A380 aircraft and we can guarantee that somewhere down the road that will be an issue.

I agree that there should be a train/tram service out to IVP. The city of Las Vegas needs to get their shit together and work on the continuous expansions of the monorail, with an extension to McCarran being first priority. Also, it is important as you say that no major development spurs up around IVP, because since IVP will be the priority concern and use of land, there will need to be room for future expansion of IVP when that may ever happen.

I am honestly surprised that no money is being put into the monorail. The city needs to take it back and actually build it so it isn't set up for failure.

Edit: You know I was thinking about how the city could take it back. Maybe through a bankruptcy? MY WILL BE DONE.

[voice of reason]

'I am surprised that nobody is putting money into the monorail'?

Thats absolutely the funniest thing I have ever seen written!

Its a money losing pit, thats why!
The monorail was built with a projected ridership of 20 million per year and actually averaged 7million. If someone takes it over, they are saddled with the debt that is unstainable and since every municapity, like every other government entity is flat broke, thats a great idea.

And here is a clue, the monorail is not even in the city of Las Vegas.

When are you guys going to wake up and realize that rail systems in the U.S. are failures and never pay their own way. Nobody wants to ride them, they only get ridden in yours and your dumb professors minds.

[CHAPINM1]

Originally Posted by voice of reason

'I am surprised that nobody is putting money into the monorail'?

Thats absolutely the funniest thing I have ever seen written!

Its a money losing pit, thats why!
The monorail was built with a projected ridership of 20 million per year and actually averaged 7million. If someone takes it over, they are saddled with the debt that is unstainable and since every municapity, like every other government entity is flat broke, thats a great idea.

And here is a clue, the monorail is not even in the city of Las Vegas.

When are you guys going to wake up and realize that rail systems in the U.S. are failures and never pay their own way. Nobody wants to ride them, they only get ridden in yours and your dumb professors minds.

It may seem like a pretty flawed system and I am sure at this point that it is, however I'd be willing to bet that if they just finished that damn connection to McCarran ridership and dare I say money coming in would skyrocket! That would be an ideal scenario anyways...

On an unrelated topic, it will be great to have the worlds highest base jump, another score for Vegas! Not only will people be able to do it right in the middle of Las Vegas from a whopping 855 foot drop, but just looking south toward Las Vegas's highest buildings such as the nearly completed Fontainebleau, which will be sticking right out at ya standing at least 730 feet, will give people an idea how high they really are and give them another reason to be freaked out/get that rush jumping that high up.

[patrick84]

Originally Posted by voice of reason

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When are you guys going to wake up and realize that rail systems in the U.S. are failures and never pay their own way. Nobody wants to ride them, they only get ridden in yours and your dumb professors minds.

Yeah, unless you live in places like, oh i don't know, DC, NYC, Chicago... cities that have obviously developed out of the industrial age. More modern cities like Vegas are going to have to figure something out in lieu of rising gas prices, energy costs, and the general negative feelings of commuting.

[tumbleweed]

Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

It may seem like a pretty flawed system and I am sure at this point that it is, however I'd be willing to bet that if they just finished that damn connection to McCarran ridership and dare I say money coming in would skyrocket! That would be an ideal scenario anyways...

but it wouldnt generate any additonal money overall, would just divert the money the cabbies make which is why the taxi/limo services would make it hard to do the monorail connection if someone got serious about it. Plus i am guessing it is not the type of system that moves fast enough to go longer distance to somewhere like IVP.

[Krases]

Originally Posted by voice of reason

'I am surprised that nobody is putting money into the monorail'?

Thats absolutely the funniest thing I have ever seen written!

Its a money losing pit, thats why!
The monorail was built with a projected ridership of 20 million per year and actually averaged 7million. If someone takes it over, they are saddled with the debt that is unstainable and since every municapity, like every other government entity is flat broke, thats a great idea.

And here is a clue, the monorail is not even in the city of Las Vegas.

When are you guys going to wake up and realize that rail systems in the U.S. are failures and never pay their own way. Nobody wants to ride them, they only get ridden in yours and your dumb professors minds.

The monorail became a money losing pit because it was hacked off at the knees. Originally it was meant to go from the airport, all the way down the strip and eventually into the downtown area in three major phases. They really should have approached the federal government with a single phase plan instead of trying to break it up into these tiny pieces.

When it was released to private hands, the company that owned it raised the cost of a ticket from 3$ to 5$, which was stupid. This is why you don't let private companies run mass transit.

Also, please watch your tone.

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by mdiederi

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...-855-feet-100/

Stratosphere’s new SkyJump: Fall 855 feet for $100

I'd try it, no doubt about it!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by mac78130

Officials: Third terminal at McCarran Airport half done

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...nal-half-done/

Damn, $2.4 billion for 14 gates? That's a hell of a lot of money, even given a new parking structure and the like!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by voice of reason

When are you guys going to wake up and realize that rail systems in the U.S. are failures and never pay their own way. Nobody wants to ride them, they only get ridden in yours and your dumb professors minds.

That is, bar none, one of the most incessantly stupid posts EVER on SSP!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[SPLENDALOVER]

Great photographs! Thank you for sharing!

[CHAPINM1]

Originally Posted by tumbleweed

but it wouldnt generate any additonal money overall, would just divert the money the cabbies make which is why the taxi/limo services would make it hard to do the monorail connection if someone got serious about it. Plus i am guessing it is not the type of system that moves fast enough to go longer distance to somewhere like IVP.

Screw the damn taxi/limo services, I pay them in pennies and not give them a cent more than I owe and detest them anyway especially for thinking that everybody is made of money of which whom they serve. If people would much rather travel in a more cost effective manner, than there should be that option for them. All the damn taxies and limos do is create terrible traffic congestion which contributes probably some of the worst around Las Vegas. May sound harsh, but I'd be lying if I said any different.

Plus, even when the monorail is to extend out to McCarren, I think the taxi and limo services will fare just fine. The level of tourism in Las Vegas is slowely but surely on the rebound once again and will continue to rise as time goes on. Congestion will be come a major issue also as time goes on for that area.

[case_architect]

moving forward?

[ScottG]

The RJ must be hurting for news if they are resorting to announcing rumors.

[coyotetrickster]

Originally Posted by voice of reason

'I am surprised that nobody is putting money into the monorail'?

Thats absolutely the funniest thing I have ever seen written!

Its a money losing pit, thats why!
The monorail was built with a projected ridership of 20 million per year and actually averaged 7million. If someone takes it over, they are saddled with the debt that is unstainable and since every municapity, like every other government entity is flat broke, thats a great idea.

And here is a clue, the monorail is not even in the city of Las Vegas.

When are you guys going to wake up and realize that rail systems in the U.S. are failures and never pay their own way. Nobody wants to ride them, they only get ridden in yours and your dumb professors minds.

Actually, in real cities, like London, New York, San Francisco, Paris, Chicago, Boston, rail lines are used, and used frequently. Unfortunately, in car-infested, sun-belt cities like las vegas, the cost of car ownership is much lower and folks opt for cars. Rail will never work in Vegas since it's economic base is tourism and the 'industries, e.g. hotels/casinos' have vested interests in maximizing guest immobility (keep em in YOUR casino).

[FlyBono24]

The Crystals mall is very nice outside, the inside is nice but way too barren... even when they get all the stores in, there is still a lot of wasted floor space. Most malls have kiosks in this space, but I can't see any "kiosk" business that they could put in a mall with stores like Tiffany, Louis Vuitton, etc.

That's another thing. Do we really need another place in Vegas where it's "look but don't touch"? A very small percentage of people in the world can afford to shop at these places.

[solarquestion]

In particular, the man who runs Crystals said that they aren't going to do kiosks. He said that Planet Hollywood does kiosks and they have the same square footage, but that that isn't for Crystals.

Part of the appeal of Crystals is that it has a wide open belly and in a place like CityCenter, it is nice to have some space to breathe a little. I don't think it'd kill them to have some benches every once in a while, but I like the unobstructed view of everything.

I personally don't shop in any place that exists inside Crystals except for Hermes, but the people that do really spend a lot of money. Enough money that not having everyone be able to shop in their is still very profitable for those stores. A perfect example being the manager of Louis Vuitton telling me that within four days they had made over a million dollars. These places don't have to sell very much to break even. In peak times, their sales are off the charts. That much you can count on.