Tempe Development Thread

[muertecaza]

Also of note from the Historic Preservation Commission is an update on 100 Mill/Hayden House. TL;DR: Not much. Apparently Douglas Wilson Companies (this guy: ) no longer owns the property or has any interest in the development. Hensel Phelps (who I believe was going to develop in partnership with Douglas Wilson) now has sole ownership. Don't know if that's particularly good or bad, but Hensel Phelps seems to have a lot more experience with projects of this size/scope.

In the past month or so, Robert Graham of Motley Design Group (who I believe has posted here on occasion) has apparently completed a HABS report, and they are doing some repairs/restoration to the Hayden House. No updates I can see on whether and when we can expect any progress on the development itself.

[muertecaza]

The Local with vertical construction.

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

The Local with vertical construction.

This building is going to be THICC

[vandypandybear]

Just saw this go up by Royal Coffee on Forest.

[ASU Diablo]

^^ Is that the building that currently houses Paradise Hawaiian BBQ or the one next to it with Mad Hatter?

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by airomero83

^^ Is that the building that currently houses Paradise Hawaiian BBQ or the one next to it with Mad Hatter?

I recognize that building as the one that houses Paradise. It would be shame to lose Paradise. The service is stern, but the food is good. In my dream world, Paradise would move into Mad Hatter's space. I'm not quite sure how Mad Hatter stays in business.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by exit2lef

I recognize that building as the one that houses Paradise. It would be shame to lose Paradise. The service is stern, but the food is good. In my dream world, Paradise would move into Mad Hatter's space. I'm not quite sure how Mad Hatter stays in business.

Thanks. I was thrown off by the Royal Coffee Bar comment as that's located in the same building as Mad Hatter. Bummer about Paradise but that building is an eyesore. I share the same sentiments about Mad Hatter but that's our go-to-spot during ASU game days

[vandypandybear]

Originally Posted by airomero83

^^ Is that the building that currently houses Paradise Hawaiian BBQ or the one next to it with Mad Hatter?

Sorry for not clarifying. This is the parcel with both Paradise and Nush. The building with the Mad Hatter is owned by Grady Gammage, and has his executive office on the Penthouse level. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

I will also figure out how to resize my images for future posts.

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by vandypandybear

Sorry for not clarifying. This is the parcel with both Paradise and Nush. The building with the Mad Hatter is owned by Grady Gammage, and has his executive office on the Penthouse level. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

I will also figure out how to resize my images for future posts.

Nush is long gone. That space with stairs leading up to a bar seems cursed. That may be one of the reasons the building is likely headed for demolition. Paradise, the ticket broker next door, and the office upstairs may not generate much rent in comparison to the potential for that land if developed at higher density. The Gammage-owned building next door is attractive, even if the prime corner space on the ground floor has been home to mediocre brewpubs. I hope it stays indefinitely.

[TAZ4ate0]

Seems like a good redevelopment of the property.

As for the Mad Hatter, I don't see how they stay in business either. Every time I am by there the place is either closed, or nearly empty.

[muertecaza]

Will be interesting to see how many if any of all the proposed hotels get built--off the top of my head there is this Residence Inn on the Paradise BBQ site, the Westin, the ASU (I think it was Omni?) hotel/conference center at Mill/University, the Mill redevelopment, 100 Mill, and the hotel attached to the 7S project that I don't think is getting built in the current phase. I can't imagine there is demand for all of them in basically the same square mile of downtown Tempe, but I guess I don't really know.

Also, the full DRC packet for the Westin on 7th St. is here: https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=54531. It looks pretty good--the proposal doesn't include the corner parcels at 7th St./Mill or 7th St./Myrtle; its just the center parcel fronting 7th St. If they get approved and everything I'm going to have to hurry and use that basketball court they set up--I have been meaning to but haven't had a chance.

[ciweiss]

I saw some stakes in the ground at the Carvana site. I also saw some tower crane sections next to the Watermark development.

I also stumbled across this fb site that has some development info. Even though im not a fan of fb...

https://m.facebook.com/tempedevelopm...ernal&mt_nav=1

[Phxguy]

Originally Posted by ciweiss

I saw some stakes in the ground at the Carvana site. I also saw some tower crane sections next to the Watermark development.

I also stumbled across this fb site that has some development info. Even though im not a fan of fb...

https://m.facebook.com/tempedevelopm...ernal&mt_nav=1

Thanks for the FB link!

But I can't stand that attached to every article or rendering there's the usual NIMBY hysteria and 'high-rise phobia' comments. Makes me wonder if all who liked this page did so out of animosity.

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by Phxguy

Thanks for the FB link!

But I can't stand that attached to every article or rendering there's the usual NIMBY hysteria and 'high-rise phobia' comments. Makes me wonder if all who liked this page did so out of animosity.

Most of the comments seem to come from the same few people. A little blocking makes the page more enjoyable.

[ASUSunDevil]

Wish they would quit incorporating stucco into tall buildings, the south side is going to look like crap:

http://azbex.com/290-room-westin-planned-for-tempe/

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by ASUSunDevil

Wish they would quit incorporating stucco into tall buildings, the south side is going to look like crap:

http://azbex.com/290-room-westin-planned-for-tempe/

The Westin passed the DRC last night 4-3, and most of the discussion was about the stucco. I didn't listen that close, but it sounded like the three no votes wanted to include some kind of requirement to at least consider other materials.

[ASUSunDevil]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

it sounded like the three no votes wanted to include some kind of requirement to at least consider other materials.

Smart people.

[muertecaza]

At the 9/28 city council meeting, the council will vote to enter negotiations with Gilbane to develop the city-owned triangular parcel on the northwest corner of Apache/Terrace (here). The city council agenda item doesn't have info on height/floors, but it does state that Gilbane's proposal includes:

• 55 workforce housing units
• 350 student housing units
• 12,000 square feet of retail space on Apache and Terrace

The parcel is less than an acre, so with parking and everything else I assume that's pretty tall.

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

At the 9/28 city council meeting, the council will vote to enter negotiations with Gilbane to develop the city-owned triangular parcel on the northwest corner of Apache/Terrace (here). The city council agenda item doesn't have info on height/floors, but it does state that Gilbane's proposal includes:

• 55 workforce housing units
• 350 student housing units
• 12,000 square feet of retail space on Apache and Terrace

The parcel is less than an acre, so with parking and everything else I assume that's pretty tall.

Is workforce units Newspeak for affordable housing?

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Is workforce units Newspeak for affordable housing?

Kind of. Can't remember exact range of the top of my head but they have to be rented to people with incomes that are between like 80 and 120% of area median income, and the rent can't exceed 30% of the renters' income. So they're more geared towards middle income housing, but it is a means of rent control.