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Originally Posted by muertecaza
Can't complain, the renderings look nice. I do feel like 5000 residents might be kind of on the low side? I don't have a great frame of reference, but for 330 acres, it seems like not that many people. A lot of that space still has to go to atheletics facilities I suppose, and combining 5000 residents with 20,000 jobs would be nothing to sneeze at. But I just feel like the more dense housing they can build, the better the area will be.
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Agreed on the residential density. Because this district will be totally disconnected from downtown, it needs its own generator of people to use the retail being proposed. I may be way off, but 5,000 seems like 4-5 lowrise apartments. Considering how many units will be leased to seasonal students, and the retail - which already shot itself in the foot by being placed inward - seems like a tough sell. The only areas I really cared to see built on are the RIO/Rural corner, and the lot fronting Rio Salado adjacent to SDS. Disappointed that there seem to be no plans for the lot referenced. A large lawn that aligned to one of the Marina Heights plazas flanked by Rio-fronting retail would have been nice.
RE: Apache and Oak, that would have been a big turn for Apache which has so far been dominated by student housing. The city screwed up when it let neighbors take down the 13 floor apt on Farmer, and they have screwed up again. It would make a great addition on Farmer, which needs a product other than senior housing. The north side is a mess, though, with the pending connection of Rio with 1st via 2 roundabouts, and the poorly planned access roads for the residential along 1st. I think it'd be a good fit for the Lawrence and Geyser lot which had been under planning, given the scale of Studios 5c.
The outdated former smoke shop that has been vacant for years on 5th/Maple is being renovated into a public market-type space. I would have preferred an infill project but replacing that parking lot with a patio makes the block infinitely more walkable. The vision for 5th is lacking when it comes to the importance of built design on the street and should have looked at creative ways to incentivize owners of the Centurylink building and other eyesores to renovate. It also made no mention of working with ASU on the Towers, which is pretty important IMO and converting back to apts with a makeover of the ground floor would make the surrounding retail viable. And, lastly, only minor work is expected on all of the city owned acreage. I think it would have been wise to plan for an integrated complex on the north so that the entire City Hall lot could be RFP'd.