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Old Posted Mar 15, 2018, 6:05 PM
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Direct Administration to report to Council through the SPC on Transportation and Transit in Q4 2018 with a staging recommendation and update on layers 1 (LRT infrastructure design), 2 (station connections), 3 (planning and development), and 4 (City Shaping) for the long-term Green Line vision;
Continue land acquisition outside of the Stage 1 project guided by a risk-based process until land requirements are updated with completion of the preliminary design for the North leg; and
Direct Administration to explore the ways and means that the existing right of ways (ROWs), north of 16th Avenue N and south of 126 Avenue S, can be activated for community purposes that may include, but are not limited to BRT, pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure, that can then convert to LRT infrastructure. Report back to Council through the SPC on Transportation & Transit by Q4 2018. ...
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this could be an interesting angle for the north... get the NC corridor so urbanized that the cyclists will fight any attempt to turn their lanes into LRT and will demand subway instead!
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So from what I can see the Green Line is funded (at least phase 1). Is there a reason that procurement isn't moving forward?
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So from what I can see the Green Line is funded (at least phase 1). Is there a reason that procurement isn't moving forward?
Believe they are still in final design and engineering process
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So from what I can see the Green Line is funded (at least phase 1). Is there a reason that procurement isn't moving forward?
Council just approved the procurement strategy - simply based on the size of the project, it needed to go through a P3 screening to see if it should be tendered as a full P3, something more traditional, or something in between. It’s moving ahead similar to West LRT with a Design Build, with Calgary Transit operating and maintaining once open. Vehicles also being procured separately.
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Council just approved the procurement strategy - simply based on the size of the project, it needed to go through a P3 screening to see if it should be tendered as a full P3, something more traditional, or something in between. It’s moving ahead similar to West LRT with a Design Build, with Calgary Transit operating and maintaining once open. Vehicles also being procured separately.
Also not super in tune with the situation in Calgary, when do they plan to get something to the airport?
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Also not super in tune with the situation in Calgary, when do they plan to get something to the airport?
It’s in the early planning stages, definitely no funding. There was rumours it may get pushed along if the 2026 Olympic Bid is successful, but in reality it’s far down the LRT wish list, and for good reason. Considering the cost, the return on investment is low since the ridership just isn’t there.
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The federal government has announced more funding for transit.

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Alberta communities will receive $3.3 billion in federal funding over the next decade for public transit, green infrastructure and other projects, Infrastructure Minister Amarjeet Sohi announced Tuesday in Edmonton.

The federal funding for Alberta breaks down like this:
•$2.1 billion for new urban transit networks and service extensions. Edmonton will be allocated up to $878 million. Calgary will be able to claim a maximum of nearly $1.1 billion.
But I am sure this is just a repeat of previous announcement. It is very frustrating and hard to follow the shell game of announcements and budgets. The federal government should provide a steady stream of funding and give the cities the responsibility to spend it as they see fit.

Imagine what the city could do with $3 billion dollars over the next 30 years.
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The federal government has announced more funding for transit.



But I am sure this is just a repeat of previous announcement. It is very frustrating and hard to follow the shell game of announcements and budgets. The federal government should provide a steady stream of funding and give the cities the responsibility to spend it as they see fit.

Imagine what the city could do with $3 billion dollars over the next 30 years.
While I share your frustration I am sure the city will receive much more than 3 billion over the next 30 years, more like 3 billion in the next 5-10 years.
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The federal government has announced more funding for transit.



But I am sure this is just a repeat of previous announcement. It is very frustrating and hard to follow the shell game of announcements and budgets. The federal government should provide a steady stream of funding and give the cities the responsibility to spend it as they see fit.

Imagine what the city could do with $3 billion dollars over the next 30 years.
You are correct that this funding is part of the previously announced $1.53billion in federal funding towards stage 1 of the Green Line. The good news from this announcement is that it will be distributed over ten years. The original commitment by the Harper government was going to be over twenty years so this means that the financing costs built into the city's cost estimates will be significantly reduced. It's still too early to see if the reduced financing costs might lead to more of the line being built but at least we're moving in the right direction. No word on where the missing $430 million will come from or over how many years it will be distributed though.
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When do we expect the project to officially begin with construction contracts etc?
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^Looks like not till 2020 (see below - re-quoted from a while back).
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Does anybody know if the trains will be Bombardier, Alstom, or Siemens?
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Does anybody know if the trains will be Bombardier, Alstom, or Siemens?
Won’t be determined for several years yet.
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Trudeau's Liberals follow through on $1.53-billion funding pledge to Green Line

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Published on: May 15, 2018 | Last Updated: May 15, 2018 2:41 PM MDT

The Liberal government says it’s making good on its promise of green for Calgary’s Green Line LRT project.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Tuesday that Ottawa would put forward $1.53 billion to the first stage of the Green Line, the expansion of the city’s light rail system that is intended to link Calgary’s north and south.

The money was first promised by the former Conservative government just before the 2015 election when the party lost power. Trudeau’s Liberals said during the campaign and after that they would see the project through.

Trudeau told reporters and officials gathered at Stampede station that the the funding is now part of a fully laid-out infrastructure plan.

“Working with our provincial and municipal partners, we’ll get the Green Line LRT built,” said the prime minister.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politi...-to-green-line

My two cents: All the pieces seem to be falling into place. Stopping construction at 16th Avenue N seems shortsighted to me but I guess if the money’s not there to finish the job all the North this time around, then it’s simply going to have to wait for another, what, decade to be finished off?
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but I guess if the money’s not there to finish the job all the North this time around, then it’s simply going to have to wait for another, what, decade to be finished off?
Would probably depend on what Council selects for the next stage of construction, though everything the Administration has done so far IMO has been to make sure Shepard-Seton is the next leg. And after that, the other parts of Calgary will want capital investments for their communities.
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All the pieces seem to be falling into place. Stopping construction at 16th Avenue N seems shortsighted to me but I guess if the money’s not there to finish the job all the North this time around, then it’s simply going to have to wait for another, what, decade to be finished off?
The thought process on this has always been that given how long construction takes, the hope is that things are in place by the time phase I completes so that construction can indeed continue beyond the current end-points seamlessly. The full line will obviously need another (or multiple) infrastructure spending cycles.
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My two cents: All the pieces seem to be falling into place. Stopping construction at 16th Avenue N seems shortsighted to me but I guess if the money’s not there to finish the job all the North this time around, then it’s simply going to have to wait for another, what, decade to be finished off?
It will be almost a decade before the initial line opens. So best case is they begin thinking about the next phase in about 10 years so it's more like 15+ years best case before anything further happens.
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Does anybody know if the trains will be Bombardier, Alstom, or Siemens?
At this point, given the troubles that Bombardier has been having with deliveries for multiple rail projects across North America, I would highly doubt they'd be chosen for the Green Line.
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At this point, given the troubles that Bombardier has been having with deliveries for multiple rail projects across North America, I would highly doubt they'd be chosen for the Green Line.
Come now, Bombardier could easily find political grease somewhere. Don't count them out.
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It will be almost a decade before the initial line opens. So best case is they begin thinking about the next phase in about 10 years so it's more like 15+ years best case before anything further happens.
With 8 years before the line is scheduled to open, the city probably still has 3 years to secure more funding so that they could open up more line than currently planned on opening day in 2026.
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