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Old Posted Nov 23, 2006, 8:13 AM
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Sky3 (SW 11th/12th & Jefferson) | x feet | 15 floors | Complete

new affordable housing project on 11th just N of jefferson. it's a parking lot now and 1-story office.









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Old Posted Nov 23, 2006, 8:48 AM
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add on that it will be 80 units and nearly 3,800 sq ft of commercial, and there is no parking planned with the project, all this according to Portland's Dec 14 Design Review Agenda (http://www.portlandonline.com/shared....cfm?id=139285)
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2006, 8:33 PM
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I have heard that John Carrol has purchased the adjacent building that is now low income housing and also holds the Jefferson theater. Word is the tenants have to get out by the end of the year.
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this is good but is that the same orange used on block 49 at sowa?
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I have heard that John Carrol has purchased the adjacent building that is now low income housing and also holds the Jefferson theater. Word is the tenants have to get out by the end of the year.

Wow . . . really? I wonder if that means he is fed up with how the Ladd Tower project is going, and will instead build the Ladd Tower on this spot (it's about the same footprint for the tower)??? Or maybe he's going to invest in some additional affordable housing, to help make up for the loss of affordable housing in the Rosefriend. Guess we'll have to stay tuned.

Maybe this means the West End is going to be hopping with more housing sooner than I thought. After the Delano collapse (due to the Art Museum's buying the site where they were going to be) I was a bit concerned that development in the West End was slowing to a crawl. Hopefully this is a good sign.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2006, 8:16 AM
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the pdc has some vague project to replace the jefferson west apts (on jefferson between 11th and 12th - but not sure which corner). it involves replacing the apts with a new building elsewhere (maybe the building carroll just bought?) and then buildng a new condo tower where the apts are. there's a pdf about it somewhere on the pdc web site.
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Here's a shot of the site. Sounds like the big ugly blue building is going to be knocked down? That's a LOT of affordable housing to be eliminated. Looks like developers are more interested in eliminating existing housing - and replace it unit per unit - then to create a net amount of (affordable) housing by building on empty lots.

Architecturally this would certainly not be a bad thing, and we get a net gain of units anyway, although it seems kind of odd to tear affordable units down to build more of the same... hmm.
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Put this building a block south and you have a winner. I hate when they tear down perfectly fine buildings when a wasted surface parking lot sits empty so close by.
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Isn't the blue building student dorms?

I agree with CAB that replacing an operating building is a waste of resources.
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They are not tearing down the blue building. They are building on the surface parking lot and one story building directly infront of the blue building facing the Eliot.
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Isn't the blue building student dorms?
The blue building is senior housing.
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That makes more sense. I'm always excited to see a surface parking lot disappear.

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(1) This building is affordable housing going in on the parking lot & 1 story building.

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the pdc has some vague project to replace the jefferson west apts (on jefferson between 11th and 12th - but not sure which corner). it involves replacing the apts with a new building elsewhere (maybe the building carroll just bought?) and then buildng a new condo tower where the apts are. there's a pdf about it somewhere on the pdc web site.
(2) This is the blue building knockdown I was referring to.
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Well that would make sense for the Jeffery, seeing the Film Center will be moving to the building that the Delano was going to be built.

I do hope the senior housing doesn't get destroyed, I would rather see a new tower go up on that parking lot on the block south of this block.
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(1) This building is affordable housing going in on the parking lot & 1 story building.

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(2) This is the blue building knockdown I was referring to.
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I have heard that John Carrol has purchased the adjacent building that is now low income housing and also holds the Jefferson theater. Word is the tenants have to get out by the end of the year.
I thought the building(s) Carroll bought are the two similar shorter buildings on the south side of the block right on Jefferson (that includes the Jefferson Theater on 12th). They are much run-down, but are also affordable housing. I think that may be the one that is up for re-do, rather than the blue building that is senior housing. That may, at least, make more sense than tearing down the senior housing building -- especially if the affordable units will be replaced somewhere else. The building(s) . . . (I think there are two separate buildings, but not sure) appear to be in poor repair, and probably could cost more to fix them than to built new affordable units. Just a thought.

It's an interesting location, if it is being proposed as more condos. The wall of glass across the street (the Eliott) is fairly close, and would be a pretty significant detraction, I would think, unless one has a unit that looks northeast, north, south, etc. If you face east (which I guess few would given the narrowness of the plot) then you'd look pretty much straight at the Elliott a half a block away. It's still a great location for more infill housing, but I also agree the surface parking lots all over the place are much better locations . . . and they could accommodate a point tower similar to the Benson or the now defunct Delano.

I'm looking forward to what they'll be doing to the surface parking lot just south of the Pittock Block (north of the Galleria). Isn't that proposed to be housing, plus parking -- to replace the 10th and Yamhill garage temporarily (or permanently) while it's also being redeveloped? Lots of proposals. It would be great to see some of these get off the ground soon.
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^yes, I believe it's the building on 11th and Jefferson. Not the blue senior housing building. I didn't realize until seeing that aireal shot that there were 2 seperate buildings on Jefferson, so not sure if there's change for both or just the one on 11th & Jeff.
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what......what about the Jefferson Theater? Portland's seediness is starting to go, Jefferson Theater, Silverado........what next Mary's Club? Where will people go for bad strippers and porn on the big screen?! Screw this, I am moving to California!
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^yes, I believe it's the building on 11th and Jefferson. Not the blue senior housing building. I didn't realize until seeing that aireal shot that there were 2 seperate buildings on Jefferson, so not sure if there's change for both or just the one on 11th & Jeff.
Ok! Guess I had it wrong. Kind of makes me sad tho that they want to tear down more historic buildings downtown... I rather like them, even if they are rather bland.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2006, 11:21 PM
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Reinventing Portland's West Park

Daily Journal of Commerce (Portland, OR)
Jan 12, 2006
by Kennedy Smith



Some are dubbing it the West Park Cultural District, the enclave in Southwest Portland that's home to the Portland Art Museum, the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall, a seasonal farmers market, Portland State University and the under-construction Eliot Tower.

But for those who have spent years developing the Cultural District, there are memories of a neighborhood rife with alcoholics, drug users and low-income or no-income individuals patronizing businesses from head shops to porn shops - hardly a place to find culture.

You can see people go into the convenience store, buy a crack pipe, go to the door of Jefferson West, procure drugs, go to the porn shop down the street, then back up to the building, all on city- owned property, said Mark Fraser, senior vice president at GVA Kidder Mathews and a development partner of E&F Properties for a proposed revitalization of the neighborhood's low-income Jefferson West apartments.

Other Southwest developers take a less dire view of the neighborhood. The neighborhood is definitely changing, said Fraser McColl, a Vancouver, British Columbia-based developer who along with partner Don Charity built the Mosaic, an eight-story mix of lofts and retail space. We looked at it from an outside perspective, and the bones were there. Everything happening there now complementing the neighborhood. Sure, it was rough in a way, but you can walk into town in three blocks along one of most beautiful neighborhoods in the United States.
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Either way you view it, there's no doubt that development is booming in what the Portland Development Commission has defined as the South Park Blocks Urban Renewal Area.

During a PDC board of commissioners meeting Wednesday, Fraser, of GVA Kidder Mathews and E&F, said: We've identified this as a cultural district, and we think the neighborhood could get a lot better. Fraser is appealing to the PDC to support the project.

E&F Properties has plans to completely renovate the Jefferson West Apartments, an affordable housing complex between Southwest 11th and 12th avenues on Jefferson Street. E&F hopes to buy the PDC- owned complex and replace it with market-rate, mixed-use residential units.

However, according to Fraser, the development team will not attempt to throw out Jefferson West's current residents. Rather, E&F Properties hopes to rebuild the site into higher-quality studio apartments and offer social services, he said.

The apartments are filled with a hard to house population, according to John Warner, senior development manager at the PDC. These are low-income, no-income, special needs people with drug and alcohol issues that require special services.

I'm hopeful that it will lead to getting residents to have more productive lives, said PDC board member Bertha Ferran.

E&F, in partnership with GSL Properties, proposes developing a new affordable housing project to replace the Jefferson West's low- income housing units. The project would be financed with a combination of 9 percent low-income tax credits, Oregon Affordable Housing Tax Credits, private funding and PDC financial assistance, estimated at $3 million.

As they are now, E&F says, the housing units are in poor condition, with studios ranging from 115 square feet to 300 square feet, shared bathrooms and kitchen facilities and no exterior common spaces.

E&F hopes to create a complex of individual units using higher- quality materials.

If the project is deemed feasible, and after an independent appraisal of the property, E&F will seek PDC approval this spring.

The current Jefferson West site is between 11th and 12th Avenues on Jefferson, across the street from a Plaid Pantry store. The second site would be along 11th Avenue behind the Jefferson West Apartments.

The development concept explores the option of renovating the existing structure, providing new storefront, metal canopy, lighting and refurbishing the exterior brick walls, a study by the prospective developers states.

The site would include 50 studios, 30 one-bedroom units and two two-bedroom units.

Tenant displacement shouldn't be an issue, according to Fraser.

He said that during rehabilitation of Jefferson West Apartments, tenants would be moved into a building at 11th Avenue, a second site slated for rehabilitation.

E&F has recruited Ankrom Moisan Associated Architects to design the project.
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Plans would have Jefferson West sold, razed, rebuilt few feet away

Thursday, February 09, 2006

The Portland Development Commission has big plans for the nearly 90-year-old, low-income Jefferson West apartments, which it bought in 2001. The urban renewal agency hopes to sell the building to developer E&F Properties, which would demolish the building and build a replacement project with the same number of low-income units half a block away.

E&F would then develop a mixed-use, market-rate condo building on the current site of the Jefferson West apartments.

Construction could start a year from now on the low-income housing building, with a completion date 14 months later, says John Warner, PDC senior development manager.
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