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Old Posted Oct 15, 2015, 5:00 PM
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^^Apparently there was no update and it was a little misinformation

http://www.phillymag.com/property/20...-philadelphia/
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HEC Recording Secretary Albert Hicks and President-elect Brian Kisielewski reiterated the latter sentiment at the end of the meeting, saying HEC does not support the current plan as it is now. Concerns include the project's height, proposed curb cuts, and garage entrances along 13th Street.


Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/property/20...vzPr3AvfyvQ.99
There's an update for ya.
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Is it just me or has this lot been significantly cleaned up lately?
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Is it just me or has this lot been significantly cleaned up lately?
A connected S. Philly friend made it sound like something was imminent when we spoke earlier today, but I couldn't swear to it. Development isn't his biz.
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Blatstein seeks zoning variances at Broad & Washington


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Developer Bart Blatstein is looking to move ahead with his proposal for a major mixed-use project at Broad & Washington, on of the city’s most visible vacant lots. And he’s not waiting for City Council.

Last June, 2nd-District Councilman Kenyatta Johnson introduced a bill that would have allowed Blatstein to pursue his plans for a 1,600-unit apartment complex with retail space wrapping around the block. But, partially because of community concerns about the height of the towers and location of the loading areas, that bill lapsed without getting a hearing. Now Blatstein is going to try his luck at the Zoning Board of Adjustment.

According to an appeal posted by the Department of Licenses and Inspections, Blatstein is now pursuing a project with one 32-story tower, 944 apartments, 882 parking spaces, ground-floor retail spaces and, potentially, an 80-room hotel. The proposal is expected to go through Civic Design Review and Planning Commission review next month. As required by the zoning code, Blatstein has requested a meeting with Hawthorne Empowerment Coalition, the local Registered Community Organization, later this month. The zoning board hearing has not been scheduled yet.
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Now this should be interesting. 32 floors seems a little ambitious, especially at this location. I'm not sure why he didn't go more modest in order to help this move forward with less hassle and community opposition.
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Now this should be interesting. 32 floors seems a little ambitious, especially at this location. I'm not sure why he didn't go more modest in order to help this move forward with less hassle and community opposition.
He's probably playing the "unrealistically shoot for the moon, but 'compromise' to a realistically doable height when the NCOs complain, because they'll complain about a 5 story building and wind-tunnels" game.

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This project is terribly designed, but Broad Street should not have height restrictions.
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If a hotel is ever built at broad and Washington, I'll eat my hat


That said.. Go for it Bart! Would love to see a tall building there
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Not a great project. But I could bear it's much better than Bart's new, shiteous Suburban-style project for the river.
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This project is terribly designed, but Broad Street should not have height restrictions.
I think I read this is CMX-5...so there shouldnt be any height restrictions.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2016, 4:07 PM
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This rendering had been around for 15 months now - November 2014. Yawn. When I see actual construction I will believe it, and only then. Hell, Bart can't even get his own mansion built in a reasonable amount of time.
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Since he is now going for one tower, the rendering is probably outdated. Either way any kind of height would stand out in this location and start to stretch high-rises south.

I'll with hold judgment until we see the new renderings.
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This rendering had been around for 15 months now - November 2014. Yawn. When I see actual construction I will believe it, and only then. Hell, Bart can't even get his own mansion built in a reasonable amount of time.
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I was at the community meeting in Hawthorne when he introduced the first concept with the 2 towers. There was a lot of concern with adding that many residents to their neighborhood, Parking (naturally), and with the density of the towers and development impacting neighborhood streets.

Of course, I am also completely guessing...and I have no real information. I am wondering if they have reconsidered the massing of the project to bring the weight more toward the Broad and Washington corner of the site. Perhaps this lends to a taller tower here where that height won't feel like it is in the neighborhood, and stepping down the massing from there to transition to the neighborhood scale.

But again - I know nothing. It will be interesting to see if this ever gets off the ground. I think it would be great to see both empty lots here developed. Embarrassing gaps of development, steps away from transit, situated on two major arterial streets, decent and improving neighborhood amenities...let's go!
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Inga weighs in on "Good Bart" and "Bad Bart," including Broad & Washington. Mostly bad these days, I have to agree. There's no accounting for inspiration/taste, or lack thereof. However, pushing bland stuff that violates multiple zoning rules from the get go is just bizarre:

http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/p...g&id=368486621
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Inga weighs in on "Good Bart" and "Bad Bart," including Broad & Washington. Mostly bad these days, I have to agree. There's no accounting for inspiration/taste, or lack thereof. However, pushing bland stuff that violates multiple zoning rules from the get go is just bizarre:

http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/p...g&id=368486621
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Blatstein declined to release drawings because he says the details are still changing. But his plan for Broad and Washington, which he showed me during an interview this week, is especially worrisome because of the site's prominence.

The empty lot, next to the High School for the Creative and Performing Arts, is the missing link between expanding Center City and revitalizing South Philadelphia. The development will shape the future of Washington Avenue, another broad street that is evolving into a residential boulevard.

Now he's back to a single, 32-story apartment building on top of a podium. Who knows what will be included when Blatstein presents the project to the Civic Design Review Board on March 15?

In the current incarnation, the lone tower sits on a 50-foot-high podium that spans the four-acre block. The structure can accommodate three large retailers, but its main purpose is to provide space for 650 cars. The plan calls for nearly 1,000 apartments.

Blatstein has big plans for the garage. In the plan he showed me, the roof would become the platform of a sky "village" of free-standing houses, arranged to mimic the center of Aix-en-Provence. Like the real French town, those rooftop structures would have shops at the bottom and apartments above. There's plenty of room, Blatstein argues, because the L-shaped tower would occupy only the northeast corner of the podium.

If the village concept sounds familiar, that's because it is recycled from the casino Blatstein proposed on the site of the old Inquirer building. The idea of a rooftop shopping mall disguised as a French village sounds like something you might find on a Florida highway, circa 1980. Not exactly a millennial magnet.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/living/...3TA1Kpj6z6H.99
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