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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 2:25 AM
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Thanks CityBoyDoug. Flumes I know, but what's a power flume?
I thought perhaps the 'rods' over the flume in the 1914 photo had something to do with producing electricity...hence the word power.



Los Angeles, power flume 1914

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There's probably a turbine connected to a generator at the bottom of the flume, inside the wooden part.
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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 2:44 AM
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Motel, not deluxe....

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This image just screamed San Gabriel Valley or Pomona Valley to me. At first I thought it might be Foothill Blvd. between Claremont and Upland. But then I had an "A-ha!" moment and deduced the name of the motel as "Oak Park." Quick google and voila! It's Huntington Drive in Monrovia, and that cool motel sign is still there! (Alas, the old oak is not.)

http://goo.gl/maps/4XVQP

The cars made me think 1950s, but the motel has a Bankamericard sign, so that makes c.1960 a better guess. Or maybe even a couple years later. Those road signs we can see the backs of here are definitely 1960s vintage, and they look pretty new here.

e_r: Did this seller have other slides with similar scenes? I'd be interested to see if they had other SGV images that were closer to home for me (Covina area).
Here is the site today....notice a lot less smog. I read a few reviews for this motel. Not sure I would want to stay there. I'd prefer the Bates Motel any day.

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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 3:31 AM
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We must have posted this link to the last Red Car run to Long Beach before but I thought in honor of all the talk of Red Cars, Yellow Cars, and this weekend, the Railroad Days at Fullerton Train Depot, I'd share this link again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&fe...&v=ebboO52In1w
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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 3:48 AM
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S Car on San Pedro

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6115408]These slides were listed on ebay this afternoon.





I guess he's brushing the dust off.

I believe this was taken on San Pedro Street in Los Angeles between 27th and 28th Street in front of Gene's Distribution Company. The S Car used to travel on San Pedro Street.



from Google Street View
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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 3:50 AM
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Thanks bighen. That the building on the right hasn't changed one iota.
(iota. I haven't used that term in a while)

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There's probably a turbine connected to a generator at the bottom of the flume, inside the wooden part.
I'm beginning to picture it now.

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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 4:17 AM
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Then I had an "A-ha!" moment and deduced the name of the motel as "Oak Park." Quick google and voila! It's Huntington Drive in Monrovia, and that cool motel sign is still there! (Alas, the old oak is not.)

e_r: Did this seller have other slides with similar scenes? I'd be interested to see if they had other SGV images that were closer to home for me (Covina area).
That's some good sleuthing JScott! I didn't expect anyone to locate that slide.
As for your question; I haven't seen any slides of the Covina area. -sorry.
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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 5:00 AM
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One Last Look at What's Left of the Sunset Hotel

bighen posted an old photo of some construction men at work on Ord, and in the background was the Sunset Hotel. Photo comparison of the position of the visible windows and doorway on the south side of the building strongly suggest that at least the ground floor survives today, its brick facade covered with stucco and plaster, as MichaelReyerson surmised.


usc digital archive


gsv

Here's a closer look at those very windows and doorway...not much to see, because the windows have those 1950's-early 60's glass louvers on them (and they were dirty, too), and the doorway was secured with rusty wrought iron. The door itself was wood, old and in bad shape, but not obviously vintage.


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A close look at the 100+ year old exposed brickwork (and fairly recent cigarette butts):


my photo

A view of the front face of the building, standing on Spring facing SW. Notice that the building has been divided lengthwise, with two distinct facades utilizing different materials. The herbal shop on the Ord St. side recently closed; the store empty. I could not get my camera close enough to take a few pics of what was inside, but I could see some fairly thick weight bearing square columns inside, and what appeared to be an original interior wall that had an opening cut into it to create more floor space (in the front view, the wall ran between the second and third sections of the left half of the building, and the opening in the wall created open space (the "third" section seen from the front)). Also, notice the gate visible on the extreme right....


my photo

Here is a view from the north side of the building. The building is separated from its neighbor by the fence. What is interesting here is the phantom window located higher up on the wall, indicated by the arrow.


my photo

Now this was the most intriguing detail: in the space between the north side of the building and the surrounding fence, there was a gate to some stairs leading down to the basement. The best I could do was to stick my camera thru the gate and here's what that looked like:


my photo

Who knows what goodies from the Sunset might still be surviving down there? One can only wonder...!
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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 6:20 AM
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Just had another "A-ha!" moment that brought to mind one of my earliest memories. The brown sign that can just barely be seen behind the light standard at right is the marquee of the Big Sky Drive-In Theater, where I saw "The Bridge on the River Kwai" when I had just turned 3 years old. My memory is of getting in trouble for constantly climbing back and forth between the front and back seat of Mom's Oldsmobile, and that the movie seemed to last forever (which was probably the cause of my fidgeting). That night was probably the latest I had ever been awake in my whole life up to that point, too.

Anyway, nothing about Los Angeles here, just a little unexpected trip down Memory Lane for Yours Truly. ^-^
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Aerial fidgeting foto of the Big Sky Drive In. 1044 Huntington Drive, Monrovia.

January 4, 1960. (Looking north. Huntington Drive runs crosswise toward top of image.)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00096/00096529.jpg
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The drive in is now the Mountain Vista Plaza shopping center, with a Target, on the northern portion, and a Best Buy and Ford dealer in the southern portion.

http://goo.gl/maps/64ht1
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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 5:36 PM
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Aerial fidgeting foto of the Big Sky Drive In. 1044 Huntington Drive, Monrovia.

January 4, 1960. (Looking north. Huntington Drive runs crosswise toward top of image.)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00096/00096529.jpg

Very cool! And, there in the upper left corner is one of the Oak Park Motel buildings. (And the Nite-Lite bar, just to the right of it). You can even see the shadow of the oak, which is just out of view past the left edge. Also, it appears the Kinney Shoes building is under construction right by the drive-in's entrance on Huntington Drive. So, if this aerial was taken in Jan. 1960, then the color slide had to've been taken in the early 1960s, after all, not the '50s. Thanks Chuckaluck!
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Long Beach Hilton, featuring the "Sky Room." Currently known as the Breakers and used as retiree housing.

According to Wiki, the Skyroom was equipped with gun emplacements during WW2, remnants of which remained until 1991. This was probably not part of MR's Shell Map. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=8551

Circa 1946




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well here are some images that are certainly new to me!

city hall as viewed from between the courthouse and the hall of records 1930


Source: USC Digital Archive

a great gasometer shot taken from the richfield building 1945. (edison engstrum sunkist gasometer, with city hall tossed in as well.....what more could anyone ask for?)


Source: USC Digital Archive

looking west on 5th street from hill street 1915


Source: USC Digital Archive

a great view looking south on hill street taken from the f. p. fay building se corner of hill and third 1928. (dig the blade on the subway terminal building)


Source: USC Digital Archive

open air market at the plaza, view is looking north westerly from the fire house - undated (probably around 1900)


Source: USC Digital Archive

looking south on main street across temple past the old federal building/post office 1931


Source: USC Digital Archive

a great 1928 aerial centered on city hall. if you look closely you can also see the old city hall still standing on broadway between 2nd and 3rd, as well as the bradbury mansion at court and hill


Source: USC Digital Archive

a great image from 1972 prior to the destruction of the hall of records, showing just how close the new courts building was when constructed next to it.


Source: USC Digital Archive

and last but not least, (at least for now.....gotta get some work done.......)

a great 1954 image of angels flight


Source: Calisphere



Hard to beat gsjansen's city hall images I think the following compilation is also in the running! Only wish they were even larger format. (Can't recall seeing these posted before, sorry if they were.)


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...IMKNNLAUQC.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...TJGND782DG.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3BVU3LSY3H.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...6J4HVHL5KH.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...H245VP2RL9.jpg
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Old Posted May 5, 2013, 10:38 PM
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This was for sale on ebay.




Maybe from the same camera or film roll, but these two images are not prints from the same negative. Aside from obvious atmospheric condition below*, cars and shadows are in slightly different positions.


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics27/00033402.jpg


* (Is this an offshore flow or an example of the infamous Santa Ana Wind conditions? )
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Godzilla, Great series of photos! What prompted this series? I especially love the Sunkist building et all.
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Maybe from the same camera or film roll, but these two images are not prints from the same negative. Aside from obvious atmospheric condition below*, cars and shadows are in slightly different positions.

In the old days back before the microchip and the microprocessor, photographers, even really good ones, would regularly vary their f stops, shutter speeds and even perhaps reach out with a free hand and shelter the lens from the sun, and snap off several exposures of essentially the same image knowing it would be too late to discover in the dark room that they'd 'guessed' wrong. My guess that's what's going on here, two images probably in a series of images. The first one, the one being offered on ebay is really nice. North Hill Street looking south in the early-mid fifties.
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Third and Main, east side

The southeast corner of Main and Third -- or Mayo, as Third Street east of Main was known prior to about 1894 -- was the home of Cameron E. Thom, Mayor of Los Angeles from 1882-84. This photo is from c. 1886 and looks east across Main Street:

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/6021/rec/4

Around 1888 he built the Thom Block in his front yard (The Thom Block is on the 1888 Sanborn Map). This photo looking southeast is dated c. 1887 (I'd put it a few years later than that); the Thom Block is on the northwest side of the round Panorama Building:

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/3456/rec/6

The Thom Block/Hotel Florence c. 1900-05 (the 1910 Baist Map calls it the Hotel Milan):

USC Digital Library - http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/6027/rec/7

A closeup:


The Thom Block lasted through at least the mid-1950s -- it's on aerial photos from that era -- but I couldn't find any later closeups or when it was razed.

Across the street on the northeast corner was the Hotel Gray (1896), shown here in c. 1905:

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/6028/rec/83

A closeup:


The Hotel Gray is on the 1921 Baist Map:

Historic Mapworks -- http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/19408/Plate+002/

But it's not on this 1931 Heart of Los Angeles map, apparently a victim of the jog in 3rd street being straightened out:

LAPL -- http://www.lapl.org/sites/default/fi...ps/map0002.jpg

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Circa 1946


Thank you so much for posting this photo Godzilla. My parents were married in Long Beach on July 14, 1944. They had their small wedding reception and two day honeymoon at the Hilton before my dad shipped out to the South Pacific. It's wonderful to see a photo from that era.

Mom and Dad. Taken at a photo a photo studio just off the lobby of the Hilton.


Personal Photo

~Jon Paul
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Old Posted May 6, 2013, 5:44 AM
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A Sentimental Journey......

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Circa 1946


Thank you so much for posting this photo Godzilla. My parents were married in Long Beach on July 14, 1944. They had their small wedding reception and two day honeymoon at the Hilton before my dad shipped out to the South Pacific. It's wonderful to see a photo from that era.

Mom and Dad. Taken at a photo a photo studio just off the lobby of the Hilton.


Personal Photo

~Jon Paul
Very sweet photo, Jon. The main hotel restaurant was on the second floor far left. You can see the large windows. The dining and dancing were at the top of the building. My parents went there in the 1950s.
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What prompted this series? I especially love the Sunkist building et all.
The credit goes to gsjansen and many other posters on the board.

City Hall is part of popular culture and symbolizes so many things to so many people. Independence, strength, imagination, parking tickets, traffic, Frank Shaw, George Reeves, Kent McCord, etc. . . . From what I recall, until the mid '60s it was downtown LA's tallest structure, standing virtually alone over LA Skyline. Yes, the Richfield Tower and a handful of other towers existed, but they hardly detracted from the CH's strong presence as made clear by so many photos posted here.

Virtually all of these images are reposts. Seeing them together may add more to our appreciation of this icon. Sorry if this brings on a spate of icon-fatigue.

Some interesting before and afters of the area >>>> :http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...4618.htmlstory

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...9JTG74LF5K.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...6HN8VJGINC.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...63K1N5I9YS.jpg




1955
http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...-Hall-1955.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...IY5II7LFUS.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...U3M427RAT3.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RD1QBTMQ7Y.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...297MNPK71P.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...8K7DAHGQ67.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YTKHMHQ55D.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...8P4JED2FFA.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5QD5K22G5R.jpg







http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...PY4INA2JSY.jpg

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http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RRIMHC64J7.jpg

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http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media
/AYBSV631TMQP9DX8PY7CKLER7AJL3Q.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5HEPJP7313.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...A7Q458229I.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...9IDQ7QYIJ4.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JYTEACPHX9.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...9BXGQYCX89.jpg



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