SkyTrain Station Renovations - Page 35

SpongeG · #**681** Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 6:48 AM**

starbucks will be moving at main street or simply shut down?

Alex Mackinnon · #**682** Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 7:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

starbucks will be moving at main street or simply shut down?

Moving. They'll eventually be where the stairs are currently.

Pinion · #**683** Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 8:40 AM**

Looks cool but how does Translink have money for this while crying poor about other improvements?

hollywoodnorth · #**684** Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 9:20 AM**

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Moving. They'll eventually be where the stairs are currently.

its not official yet. negotiations are still under way but things look to be lining up for a move across main and a larger store with more features. unless you hear the deal is done?

nname · #**685** Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 9:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Pinion

Looks cool but how does Translink have money for this while crying poor about other improvements?

Its about capital vs operating investments. For capital, TransLink would only have to pay a portion of the cost and the senior government will contribute the rest. But for operation, they'll have to pay 100%.

For instance, TransLink's cost for the Main Street upgrade is $4.8M one-time (Fed+Prov $25.2M). The new SeaBus is $2M one-time (Fed $23M). Compare this to the full Hwy1 Rapid Bus at $4.9M/year, increase service on busy routes at $9.6M/year, increase service on U-Pass routes at $7.5M/year... Which project is more likely to go ahead?

PS. Just noticed.. if they choose the local contract for the SeaBus, they would have to double their contribution to $4M... Hmm.. no one in their right mind would pay double for the same thing, right...?

Meraki · #**686** Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by nname

Its about capital vs operating investments. For capital, TransLink would only have to pay a portion of the cost and the senior government will contribute the rest. But for operation, they'll have to pay 100%.

For instance, TransLink's cost for the Main Street upgrade is $4.8M one-time (Fed+Prov $25.2M). The new SeaBus is $2M one-time (Fed $23M). Compare this to the full Hwy1 Rapid Bus at $4.9M/year, increase service on busy routes at $9.6M/year, increase service on U-Pass routes at $7.5M/year... Which project is more likely to go ahead?

PS. Just noticed.. if they choose the local contract for the SeaBus, they would have to double their contribution to $4M... Hmm.. no one in their right mind would pay double for the same thing, right...?

Yeah, basically that. The Prov/Fed like giving money to capital projects because they can have a photo op and ribbon cutting ceremony for it. Providing operational funding doesn't give them that same opportunity.

"Yes, We'll buy you 150 new Hybrid buses. No we won't give you money to hire drivers for them."

This pattern of funding has led to TransLink having one of the youngest and most technologically advanced fleets in North America, but constantly running into issues trying to find money to operate it.

WarrenC12 · #**687** Posted **Jan 14, 2013, 5:23 PM**

If only they had the capital budget to pay for some Skytrain lines... they pay for themselves on an operational basis.

s211 · #**688** Posted **Jan 14, 2013, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Meraki

Yeah, basically that. The Prov/Fed like giving money to capital projects because they can have a photo op and ribbon cutting ceremony for it. Providing operational funding doesn't give them that same opportunity.

"Yes, We'll buy you 150 new Hybrid buses. No we won't give you money to hire drivers for them."

This pattern of funding has led to TransLink having one of the youngest and most technologically advanced fleets in North America, but constantly running into issues trying to find money to operate it.

Fundamentally, not that much different than any university. They're building like mad but can't maintain existing structures.

nname · #**689** Posted **Jan 15, 2013, 2:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

If only they had the capital budget to pay for some Skytrain lines... they pay for themselves on an operational basis.

That's the thing I have for people saying "for the same price of one SkyTrain line, you can build 3 LRT lines".. as if the cost of running each of the line is free. Everyone only cares about the capitals and get things built. But for operatings, TransLink should magically come up with the money for it. If they don't, then they are "horribly inefficient".

jlousa · #**690** Posted **Jan 17, 2013, 4:50 AM**

nname · #**691** Posted **Jan 17, 2013, 5:12 AM**

So, seems like there's no platform extension and the station platform will remain at 88m (with 12m of already-built future extension past the west elevator).

officedweller · #**692** Posted **Jan 17, 2013, 9:51 PM**

Yeah, so no plans to extend the platforms longer (i.e. the east station house excalator and stair are not centred on the platform to allow access to the edges).

I guess that will just accommodate the 5-car scheme.

jlousa · #**693** Posted **Jan 30, 2013, 6:55 PM**

Figure since the Canada Line is now part of the Skytrain network this would the best place to post.

RFP issued for the Detailed Design of Richmond Brighouse Bus Mall. Not all that much to show at this stage but some good info.

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BACKGROUND
Richmond - Brighouse is a terminus station of Canada Line and a bus exchange is a key transfer location for the bus passengers. The design, materials and amenities are critical from a functional, accessible, high quality, and aesthetically pleasing stand point. The Bus Exchange at Richmond Brighouse is currently located adjacent to the station. This on street exchange serves both routes that terminate at the station and route which flow through. The existing bus exchange needs to be relocated into a Bus Mall proposed to be located on a street perpendicular to No. 3 Road. The new Bus Mall will be partly located on the site of the existing Scotia Bank building and the construction of this new facility will commence after demolition of the existing bank building.

Fairborne Homes Limited is the Developer of the condo tower (Mandarin Residences) which is coming up adjacent and on the east of the Richmond - Brighouse Station. This will include space for a new Scotia bank. This bank space will be adjacent to the new bus mall. The Developer has agreed to construct the bus mall related area located adjacent to the bank area. The purpose of commencing the bus mall design at the current stage is to ensure that the information on bus mall design elements could be provided to the Developer in time for these to be incorporated in the overall Fairborne Development’s design.

There is a lot located on the east end of the proposed bus mall on which the construction will be ongoing for a few years and hence, an interim bus mall will have to be constructed before the final bus mall is in place. The bus mall layouts for Phase 1 (Interim) and Phase 2 (Final) are attached. The design will have to be prepared for interim and final bus mall that will consist of passenger unloading bays at the south sidewalk, idle bus zone and passenger loading bays at the
north sidewalk. The new bus mall will be designed to accommodate 10 bus routes with both regular and articulated buses. A total of six (6) bays will be provided for loading and unloading along with the layover space for seven (7) buses.

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Milestone Event Estimated Date
Development permit application March 18, 2013
Detailed Design Completion – Ph 1 & 2 July 19, 2013
Building permit application July 26, 2013
Post RFP for Construction August 23, 2013
Existing Bank Building demolition (By Fairborne) August 30, 2013*
Award Construction contract – Ph 1 September 13, 2013
Substantial completion – Ph 1 February 13, 2014 *
Construction - Ph 2 September 2014 – April 2016**
Acceptance of Final Product April 30, 2016**

red-paladin · #**694** Posted **Jan 30, 2013, 8:16 PM**

This will remove the Scotia Bank building, allowing for the station to potentially be expanded to two platforms?

deasine · #**695** Posted **Jan 30, 2013, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by red-paladin

This will remove the Scotia Bank building, allowing for the station to potentially be expanded to two platforms?

The Scotiabank Building isn't in the way right now; it's the HSBC building that really prevents it from being expanded to two platforms for double tracking (or more like two single guideways).

red-paladin · #**696** Posted **Jan 30, 2013, 9:57 PM**

Thanks.

TransitJack · #**697** Posted **Jan 31, 2013, 9:05 PM**

The large empty lot behind Brighouse is getting a tower and retail on lower floors. The Scotia Bank will be part of this. Then the old bank south of the station will be removed. Expect preloading of the site to begin soon. Big piles of sand.

Speaking of near-station developments, progress is quite fast next to Marine Dr station. The gateway project has a huge pit right next to the station and now just north of Marine Dr the MC2 project has removed some houses next to the tunnel portal and begun demolishing that old 2-story building from the NE corner of Cambie and Marine

Millennium2002 · #**698** Posted **Feb 1, 2013, 12:50 AM**

With all the new developments and yet a lack of room in the plans for an expansion of the line, it seems like Richmond-Brighouse will be semi-permanently hemmed in on all sides and remain the terminus of the Richmond branch of the Canada Line for some time. It's a shame really... I'm dismayed that Richmond doesn't want to see the line go further down the city's backbone (that is, No 3 Road) due to purely aesthetic concerns.

officedweller · #**699** Posted **Feb 1, 2013, 12:51 AM**

As part of the Mandarin Residences project, there will be a public art component that will cover up the end of the guideway with a "cap".

hollywoodnorth · #**700** Posted **Feb 27, 2013, 9:52 PM**

And the east side of main street station is closed ..... And the area full fenced up to station street >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

we have lift off of the reno project!