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I am all for CADA. One thing I think CADA should have a larger role in is public art. Basically, I don't think the City of Calgary should have any part in developing arts strategies- that should be put in the hands of organizations like CADA.
It is, the city provides CADA with a portion of it's budget, CADA does the granting. I know the public art initiative is handled by City Hall, but basically, CADA does all the granting of city provided money. And I agree with you completely by the way on this.
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Video flythrough of the Edmonton Arena. F'n sick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSP-G...e_gdata_player Not sure how to embed this format...
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Old Posted May 16, 2012, 5:41 PM
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Can't wait to see how you guys respond to this.
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Old Posted May 16, 2012, 5:59 PM
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O-M-G!!! That's amazing!

Here's some more great photos too:
http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=DL|EDM|home
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Old Posted May 16, 2012, 6:21 PM
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Looks great. Maybe Calgary will do what they did last time; wait until Edmonton builds theirs and then do something better

Seriously though, it's a great looking arena, it would hard to build something better. Hopefully Calgary's new arena is at least as nice.

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Stunning! What a huge boost this will be for the Edmonton downtown. Are they still planning on that standing room viewing area high up at press level? I couldn't really see it in the video.

I can only wish we get something that unique here in Calgary. No stampitecture please!!
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Can't wait to see how you guys respond to this.
Oh don't you worry about us....according to this previously unreleased conceptual image, our new barn will blow your beautiful, sleek, modern arena out the barn door!


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Seriously though, way to go Edmonton! Truly magnificent.
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That's an awesome looking arena! Eggbert's link to the Oilers site has council presentations, which include full floorplans of every level; there's some sort of "sky terrace" there. The parking is only 300 stalls under the arena, but downtown Edmonton is probably able to absorb a lot more at night once the office workers have gone home. Lots of neat details; the Oil Kings' dressing room is larger than the NHL visitor's. And there's 56 square meters devoted to beer.

Calgary will have a hell of a time putting together a nicer facility than this one.

My only question is what the hell is a "winter garden"?
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Has Edmonton secured all of the funding yet? Last I heard they were still $100 million short.
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Oh don't you worry about us....according to this previously unreleased conceptual image, our new barn will blow your beautiful, sleek, modern arena out the barn door!


Seriously though, way to go Edmonton! Truly magnificent.
I don't think there are enough horse statues for that to truly be a Calgary project.
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My only question is what the hell is a "winter garden"?
Presumably a Devonian Garden type facility.

Love the arena, but how likely is this to be built? Is this approved and likely to go ahead, or do we have years to see the design be 'economised' and chipped away?
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That's beautiful. I like that they have taken any hockey arena that exists and BLOW it out of the water. That Arena includes exactly what I want for the Flames. Sleek, modern, includes a concert venue and an onsite practice/community rink.

My only complaint is the seating bowl in the upper corners. I dont like the giant columns in the corners like the Jobbing.com arena.

Hmm I am really curious what the Flames' vision is. I am willing to bet that it's nothing close to being as cool as this! How different is Calgary's funding structure as compared to Edmonton's?

My question is the same as 5seconds' above.
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A winter garden is just an indoor garden that has plants in bloom year round. It creates a nice garden space that can be enjoyed in the winter. The lobby of EAP was supposed to have a winter garden before the cost cutting scissors came out.

I imagine this design will be scaled back significantly as what they show will be very difficult and expensive to build. The end project should still be pretty damn nice though, and I imagine it will go a long way towards helping that part of downtown revitalize.

I wonder if Ken King is changing his mind about the brick building he wanted to build here, now that he has seen this.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Calgary so far is all private money, and Edmonton's a mix of private and public right? I think the 100 million shortfall for Edmonton is the public portion from the city.

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That's beautiful. I like that they have taken any hockey arena that exists and BLOW it out of the water. That Arena includes exactly what I want for the Flames. Sleek, modern, includes a concert venue and an onsite practice/community rink.

My only complaint is the seating bowl in the upper corners. I dont like the giant columns in the corners like the Jobbing.com arena.

Hmm I am really curious what the Flames' vision is. I am willing to bet that it's nothing close to being as cool as this! How different is Calgary's funding structure as compared to Edmonton's?

My question is the same as 5seconds' above.
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Presumably a Devonian Garden type facility.

Love the arena, but how likely is this to be built? Is this approved and likely to go ahead, or do we have years to see the design be 'economised' and chipped away?
Its msotly tax dollars being spent thout its not really clear how all the funding is working.

What are all those buildings in the picture? Are they built?
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Old Posted May 16, 2012, 9:24 PM
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Calgary so far is all private money, and Edmonton's a mix of private and public right? I think the 100 million shortfall for Edmonton is the public portion from the city.
Has Calgary even announced anything relative to the funding? All I have heard is that they want a new arena (around 18000 seats), they want it downtown close to transit and that they are looking for land.

The City of Edmonton paid a lot of money in this deal, it was the Feds and the province that opted out of the funding.
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