NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS - Page 65

The_Lite · #**1281** Posted **Mar 20, 2012, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

It's my understanding that the squares will be composed a a metal that looks like brushed nickel. The should contrast magnificently with shiny glass. Whatever one thinks of the shape, the facade will be quite sleek.

The dark "squares" on the rendering are the windows which are 13x13 feet which will be glass but not shiny and the rest of the facade just fair-faced concrete.. definitely not marble..

RobertWalpole · #**1282** Posted **Mar 20, 2012, 6:12 PM**

I was told differently by someone with inside information.

The_Lite · #**1283** Posted **Mar 20, 2012, 6:40 PM**

my information suggests that the squares are the windows.. you think the white area is shiny glass?

RobertWalpole · #**1284** Posted **Mar 20, 2012, 7:40 PM**

I was told that the whitish areas will be metal in a brushed-nickel finish.

NYguy · #**1285** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 3:09 PM**

(March 21, 2012)

www.432park.com

Nexis4Jersey · #**1286** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 4:25 PM**

Isn't anybody concerned over what the wind will do to this building...it will sway violently....square buildings aren't exactly aerodynamic

aquablue · #**1287** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Isn't anybody concerned over what the wind will do to this building...it will sway violently....square buildings aren't exactly aerodynamic

Why would I waste our very short lifetimes with worrying about a building and stressing myself out about something I can't control? So, I wouldn't waste your time "worrying" about these kind of things and trust the engineering team.

MrSlippery519 · #**1288** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 5:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Isn't anybody concerned over what the wind will do to this building...it will sway violently....square buildings aren't exactly aerodynamic

Are you an engineer and have you looked at the plans for the building? If one or more of those questions are answered no why in the world would you waste your time?

They would not design, build and sell 100 million dollar places in a building that was going to cause issues. The designers know a heck of a lot more about how the building will react to wind, etc than you or I could even dream of.

Nexis4Jersey · #**1289** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 6:09 PM**

Yikes...i was just raising a concern...all square buildings have wind issues....some engineers overlook this or ignore it. If i recall the original WTC swayed so violently that it made employees sick and uncomfortable... Why could they go with a round shaped building?

1Boston · #**1290** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Yikes...i was just raising a concern...all square buildings have wind issues....some engineers overlook this or ignore it. If i recall the original WTC swayed so violently that it made employees sick and uncomfortable... Why could they go with a round shaped building?

Theres ways of getting around sway, like tuned mass dampers, like in the John Hancock in Boston or Taipei 101, theres another way of doing it but i forget what its called

JayPro · #**1291** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 9:02 PM**

IIRC I read on this thread that the exterior metal gridwork was supposed to help in countering wind swaying.

scalziand · #**1292** Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by JayPro

IIRC I read on this thread that the exterior metal gridwork was supposed to help in countering wind swaying.

Yes. The gridwork will help reduce the shedding of vortices which cause swaying.

NYguy · #**1293** Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 3:40 PM**

(March 22, 2012)

Reminds me of toys I played with as a kid...

1Boston · #**1294** Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

(March 22, 2012)

Reminds me of toys I played with as a kid...

Haha that reminds me of some great memories. I had a whole set of different mini heavy equipment, that could be the reason i love watching things like this now.

NYguy · #**1295** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 6:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by 1Boston

I had a whole set of different mini heavy equipment, that could be the reason i love watching things like this now.

I think you are right. Anyway, the site is changing very rapidly now. Construction seems almost imminent.

nyc_alex · #**1296** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 3:26 PM**

Those excavators on site have enormous buckets. Much bigger than I was expecting.

gramsjdg · #**1297** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 4:12 PM**

This puppy is going to be badass!

sbarn · #**1298** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 6:14 PM**

I did a little photoshopping to show the impact this tower will have on the skyline (along with a few other proposals):

Current:

Future:

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New Towers Highlighted:

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aquablue · #**1299** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 7:48 PM**

Looks great. Now all we need is something very tall in the 40's (between the ESB cluster and the upper 50's) to balance it out a little. Is there any possibilities for tall towers in the 40s?

The skyline, if built like that, would be nice though. It's amazing how short Verre is now, pity!

sbarn · #**1300** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 8:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by aquablue

Looks great. Now all we need is something very tall in the 40's (between the ESB cluster and the upper 50's) to balance it out a little. Is there any possibilities for tall towers in the 40s?

The skyline, if built like that, would be nice though. It's amazing how short Verre is now, pity!

Yeah the slimness of this tower is actually growing on me. I'm getting greedy, but I wish there were a few more ~1200+ foot to add in there.