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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 6:21 PM
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Edmonton: It Does Not Suck!

I wrote this article in last week's edition of The Charrette:

Edmonton: It Does Not Suck!

Adam Bentley 17 January 2012

I remember one of the first things I noticed when I moved to Edmonton this past fall was a local interpretation written on a bench of the Van Morrison quote that said “Edmonton. Don’t like it? Get the fuck out”. That comment encapsulated the initial conversations I had with Edmontonians of various political and cultural stripes about urban planning in the city. Edmonton is what it is. Edmonton is not meant to look good or sound exciting. Its purpose is to provide the basic necessities for the individual to prosper—at least financially. However as I learned more about my new home city, I realized Edmonton is a breeding ground for progressive ideas about ecologically sustainable living. As a new resident and urban planner, I would like to share with you my initial observations and suggestions about Edmonton’s land use patterns, built form, and transportation infrastructure. These observations are not based on much background research. I apologize in advance if I pass judgment without knowing the context.

As much as I’m impressed that Edmonton is a world leader in waste management, sadly, this efficient use of resources does not extend to land. Even though the City is about to proceed with its seemingly-radical redevelopment of the City Centre airport, relative to other Canadian cities I’ve visited, most of Edmonton’s lots are BIG and WIDE and very SPREAD OUT! The front and back yards are HUGE! City politicians approve new subdivisions light years away from downtown! I hope that as progressive planning practices become more common here, Edmonton’s lots will become narrower and shallower, and front-yard setbacks will be all but eliminated. The reductions in private green space would be replaced with high quality public parks and gathering spaces. I also hope that legislation similar to Ontario’s Places to Grow Act is implemented in Alberta to stop Edmonton’s sprawl no further than Anthony Henday Drive (though expensive gasoline may do to urban sprawl what a government might not be able to do).

While Edmonton’s built form seems to be generally limited to stucco bungalows and low-rise apartments, I see potential for new infill projects along back lanes. These humble corridors form a complete, alternative street network right in the city and will be the new frontier of residential and commercial intensification. I can imagine hundreds of thousands of people living in laneway housing and apartments as demand increases for small-scale living in urban areas and former streetcar suburbs. Other types of housing I’d like to see more of in Edmonton are row and semi-detached housing in both urban and suburban areas. As much as Edmonton’s roads are incredibly wide (lots of space to add bike and bus lanes), I also like the fact that all your streets are lined with a row of trees and a sidewalk on both sides forming a shaded canopy in the summer and letting through what little light exists in winter.

I am not impressed with Edmontonians’ insane addiction to their cars but am very impressed with the City’s commitment to correct this problem. I noticed the contra-flow bike lanes and plans for creating an accessible LRT network with low-floor boarding and frequent stops. I hope to see a bike-sharing network, a car-sharing network, and separated urban bike routes within a few years from now because active transportation (public transit, by bike, on foot, in a wheelchair) is an essential, efficient, and affordable transport philosophy for the 21st Century. I also hope to see the vast parking lots of the nightmare that is South Edmonton Common replaced with pedestrian-oriented, dense residential development. Finally, why is there a massive interchange in the middle of the fantastic river valley (next to the Muttart Conservatory)? That thing should go too!

From my initial observations, Edmonton has made some very bad planning mistakes but also some good decisions too. The city seems to be in the early stages of embracing the ecologically sustainable, resource-efficient lifestyle becoming popular worldwide that helps residents prosper with limited personal resources. Based on Toronto’s experience, this trend will accelerate as the suburbs are vacated by both young and old people fleeing the high cost of driving and home maintenance costs in favour of the city centre. I think that bench should read “Edmonton: Good things are coming. Stay the fuck here!”


Adam Bentley is an urban planner who recently moved to Edmonton to work for the provincial government. He will be contributing regular guest columns on planning public and private space in the Alberta Capital Region. You can find more of his work at adambentley.com.
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Nicely worded and some good observations about our fair city. Unfortunately, we simply do not have enough buy in for significant change, but it is beginning to occur.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 7:55 PM
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Good article, welcome to the Edmonton Capital Region. Great to have more people talking and working on the urban experience rather than just another suburbanite putting in time, and bitching about commute time.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 8:06 PM
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Finally, why is there a massive interchange in the middle of the fantastic river valley (next to the Muttart Conservatory)? That thing should go too!
That was just phase 1 of a massive freeway plan from the 1960s that was quashed.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 9:28 PM
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Yes unlike Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal, Edmonton has managed not to build a freeway through its downtown. But it does have many mini-freeways throughout the suburbs.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 10:03 PM
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Wow, right over Stantec's offices on the west side of the freeway loop. Not like there's any shortage of land in Edmonton for an office of 1,200+ employees.
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Ewwwwwwwwww. That'll give me nightmares for days. Though instead of building those interchanges in the core, they're now building them in the suburbs. Have you driven through the interchanges of Manning Drive and the Calgary Trail with Anthony Henday Drive? They're huge!

Coldrsx, where did you see that similar quote to my article?
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 10:12 PM
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Look above this text.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 10:15 PM
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I noticed it but I'm trying to figure out what it is. The image is very small. Is it an equipment case or something?
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2012, 10:22 PM
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^^^ Starting to remind me of the freeways in LA. 20 yrs. ago, you would never even imagine something like this would/could be built in Edmonton, and now, here we are... I guess we're growing up.
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“Edmonton. Don’t like it? Get the fuck out”.
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“Edmonton. Don’t like it? Get the fuck out”.
Lol, maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but I read:
"If you don't like it.. go fuck yourself".

It appears to be taken from this:
http://yfrog.com/h0kp3atj
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I can read what it says but I'm trying to figure out what object the text is on in the background.
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A box to keep vinyl in. They sell the stickers at blackbird.
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yup, but the same message.
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