2019 Federal Election: BC Ridings

[whatnext]

Hopefuly we've finally seen the end of Wai Young after losing twice and losing in the civic vote. Of course, she might pop up like a bad penny in the provincial election.

[misher]

Originally Posted by Sheba

The final results (assuming no changes due to recounts) are:

Liberal - 157
Conservative - 121
Bloc - 32
New Democrat - 24
Green - 3
Independent - 1

This could prove to be interesting. The Liberals need 170 to get things passed. The Bloc have already said they won't form a coalition with anyone and will vote by issue, so the Liberals are going to have to routinely do things to make either the Bloc or the NDP happy - and 11 of the NDP candidates are from BC.

Or perhaps they’d extend the olive branch to the western half of the nation and work with the CPC? Or just keep going and vote on a case by case basis.

[MIPS]

NDP mulled a coalition before the election, then went silent for about a week, now are mulling it again.

If the liberals want to play ball this might happen. It's about their only chance if they want to make things move.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by misher

Or perhaps they’d extend the olive branch to the western half of the nation and work with the CPC? Or just keep going and vote on a case by case basis.

I suspect the Tories would rather team up with even the NDP than the Grits.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by MIPS

NDP mulled a coalition before the election, then went silent for about a week, now are mulling it again.

If the liberals want to play ball this might happen. It's about their only chance if they want to make things move.

Libs don't need to give up that much, they'll govern 1 bill at a time is my guess. They have a strong minority.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I suspect the Tories would rather team up with even the NDP than the Grits.

Not on pipelines.

[Tetsuo]

Originally Posted by MIPS

NDP mulled a coalition before the election, then went silent for about a week, now are mulling it again.

If the liberals want to play ball this might happen. It's about their only chance if they want to make things move.

They know the NDP doesn't have the funds at all to fight another election, they won't make major concessions to them

Bill by bill basis, TMX will go with CPC voting in favor, other legislation will either have minor appeal to Bloc or NDP in mind

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I suspect the Tories would rather team up with even the NDP than the Grits.

It doesn't matter who the Tories would rather team up with - the NDP has said there's no way they'll team up with them and the Greens likely wouldn't either due to them basically being anti-climate change. I don't know what the Bloc thinks of the Tories.

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

They know the NDP doesn't have the funds at all to fight another election, they won't make major concessions to them

Bill by bill basis, TMX will go with CPC voting in favor, other legislation will either have minor appeal to Bloc or NDP in mind

I suspect it'll be a bill by bill basis, favouring the Bloc and / or NDP.

The Libs don't have enough (other than TMX) to appeal to the Tories - they have more in common with the NDP and Greens. If they try to push through TMX they'll have to make any confidence votes Tory-friendly as the NDP and Greens would be pissed at them and vote against it - and likely get the Bloc to join them as they're against the Energy East pipeline.

[Sheba]

Metro Vancouver Liberal MPs talk about life in a minority government

“I think any time that you lose a majority, there is likely time to reflect on what you are being told by the electorate,” said Jonathan Wilkinson, the Liberals’ fisheries minister who was re-elected in North Vancouver.

While he argued it is unusual for governments to win back-to-back majorities, he allowed that “there is probably a message in there that we need to digest and make sure that we think about as we look to govern in the second mandate.”

Nationally, the Liberals captured just one third of the popular vote, well below the party’s total in 2015. More Canadians cast ballots for the Conservatives in this election, but the distribution of those votes meant the Liberals won more seats.

In B.C., the Liberals will send 11 MPs to Ottawa, down from 17 in 2015. The party lost votes to the Conservatives who now have 17 B.C. MPs, a big jump over the 10 elected in 2015. The NDP have 11 and the Greens’ two, roughly the same numbers as in the last election.

Both Wilkinson and Harjit Sajjan, who served as defence minister and is another powerful B.C. voice in Ottawa, predicted Liberal MPs can work with other progressive parties to make a minority work, similar to how B.C.’s provincial government operates.

“This is about putting a plan together, being collaborative with parliamentarians of all parties, and then make sure we deliver,” Sajjan said, shortly after his re-election in Vancouver South.

Federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Leader Elizabeth May represent B.C. ridings, which means opinions from this province could potentially have more sway in a minority government.

Postmedia spoke with five newly elected Liberal MPs who said they share values with the Greens and NDP on issues such as the environment, the economy, affordable housing, health care, reducing homelessness and other social justice reforms.

No one, though, mentioned the Trans Mountain pipeline, which the Liberals bought but the other progressive parties oppose. Indeed, it is one of several issues — along with electoral reform and how much money to invest in a national pharmacare plan — on which the Liberals need to narrow the gap with other parties in Ottawa.

On Tuesday, after he was re-elected in Burnaby South, Singh said the NDP will continue to oppose the pipeline expansion. But also on Tuesday, Liberal Finance Minister Bill Morneau said the prime minister will go ahead with expansion of the pipeline, despite opposition from potential power-sharing parties.

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Joyce Murray, who has represented Vancouver—Quadra since 2008, believes the Liberals have a “huge amount” in common with the NDP and the Green parties, and even the Bloc, when it come to the environment.

“There are countries in the world that have done far more than Canada about climate change because people cooperated across party lines,” she said. “I’m looking forward to this new adventure.”

Hedy Fry, who was re-elected in Vancouver Centre for her ninth term, served in a minority government under Liberal prime minister Paul Martin and predicted her party would negotiate with others on a “case by case basis.”

“In some instances the NDP may not agree with the way we want to do things, so that is where the negotiations come through,” the longtime MP said. “We are prepared to play nicely with the other people in the sandbox.”

[paulsparrow]

The Libs will get by to start. Passing a budget they will give the NDP some concessions on supporting a national pharmacare program. Next up will be the pipeline. If the Libs are serious about it then the CPC will support them on that one.

After that it's one bill at a time. The Seperatists will vote against everything unless it gives Quebec something. CPC will vote against most everything. The NDP will vote for/against depending on if they like it or not.

Remember it's 184 (Libs/NDP/Gr)-154 (Cons/Bloq/Jody) so some but not a lot of leg room. Surprise vote could topple the govt.

Minority govt's avg just over two years plus I believe. Don't see this one any different other than probably shorter than that.

[whatnext]

Once again Richmond Centre gets the "prize" for lowest voter turnout in BC, followed by Surrey Centre and Steveston-Richmond East.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6068203/b...pFXuIH1EqPXIgs

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Sheba

It doesn't matter who the Tories would rather team up with - the NDP has said there's no way they'll team up with them and the Greens likely wouldn't either due to them basically being anti-climate change. I don't know what the Bloc thinks of the Tories.

Point being that a teamup with the Libs is near-impossible.

Originally Posted by paulsparrow

Remember it's 184 (Libs/NDP/Gr)-154 (Cons/Bloq/Jody) so some but not a lot of leg room. Surprise vote could topple the govt.

Minority govt's avg just over two years plus I believe. Don't see this one any different other than probably shorter than that.

Sure, but what kind of f**kup could make the Dippers, Bloc and Tories agree on anything? Trudeau just needs to pit one against the other on each bill.

[misher]

Originally Posted by paulsparrow

The Libs will get by to start. Passing a budget they will give the NDP some concessions on supporting a national pharmacare program. Next up will be the pipeline. If the Libs are serious about it then the CPC will support them on that one.

After that it's one bill at a time. The Seperatists will vote against everything unless it gives Quebec something. CPC will vote against most everything. The NDP will vote for/against depending on if they like it or not.

Remember it's 184 (Libs/NDP/Gr)-154 (Cons/Bloq/Jody) so some but not a lot of leg room. Surprise vote could topple the govt.

Minority govt's avg just over two years plus I believe. Don't see this one any different other than probably shorter than that.

The way I saw it, the Liberal platform had similar points to either the NDP or CPC platform. So on the stuff thats similar to the NDP one they get approval from the NDP, and on the stuff thats similar to the CPC one they get approval from the CPC.

I just find it interesting that both the NDP and CPC one had increasing the mortgage amortization to 30 years, I wonder if that will pass.

[Sheba]

Trudeau says new cabinet to be sworn in on Nov. 20, vows to work with opposition

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he will unveil a new, gender-balanced cabinet on Nov. 20 and is vowing to work with opposition parties in his first public comments since election night, when voters handed the Liberals a minority mandate.

However, Trudeau - who held his first news conference Wednesday in Ottawa since Monday's trip to the polls - is unequivocally ruling out any possibility of a coalition, formal or informal, with his political rivals in the House of Commons.

He also vowed to find a way to ensure that Alberta and Saskatchewan have a voice in cabinet after the Liberals didn't earn a seat in either province.

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He also said his government intends to forge ahead with the controversial Trans Mountain pipeline project, saying that it is in the national interest - even if it is opposed by New Democrat and Green MPs, whose support he is going to need to implement the government's agenda.

It wasn't just premiers out west that Trudeau spoke with - he also reached out to Quebec Premier Francois Legault and Ontario's Doug Ford, whose unpopularity Trudeau used as a battering ram against Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer.

Reflecting on Monday's vote, he said Canadians gave him a lot to think about, and that he will take the time necessary to reflect on how to work with the other parties. To that end, he is promising to sit down with all party leaders to hear their priorities.

Scheer has put the onus on Trudeau to work with the provinces and opposition parties over the coming months, while NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has said he wants Trudeau to address his party's key priorities in exchange for New Democrat support.

Likewise, Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet has said his party would only support government legislation that was in Quebec's interest, while Green Leader Elizabeth May has spoken about the need to address climate change more robustly than under the current Liberal plan.

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I really can't see this government lasting more than two years...