SHANGHAI | Shanghai Tower / 上海中心大厦 | 2,073 FT / 632 M | 128 FLOORS

[rjb001]

Sorry if this has been asked already, but how quickly are we going to start seeing the shape of this building? Don't get me wrong, it's going REALLY fast already but does anyone know when the outside of it will be noticeable?

Granted it's mostly glass but there will be some framework for it too right?

[R@ptor]

Took that one last weekend:

[navazan]

bloody hell. the chinese are gonna take over

[Troubadour]

Originally Posted by navazan

bloody hell. the chinese are gonna take over

Don't bet on it. What you're seeing right now is the product of inertia from massive external investment over the preceding decades, not so much internal creativity or productivity. It's unsustainable, and once China has to rely on its internal qualities rather than massive trade imbalances to fund its growth, the size, density, and Byzantine complexity of its economic and political system - not to mention demographic issues - will make things exponentially more difficult. The problems that stopped Japan's meteoric rise were trivial in comparison.

Nevertheless, China will probably exceed the United States in absolute resources, and still has quite a ways to go before peaking - although its ability to use those resources effectively will be badly compromised when trade equilibrium occurs or is forced on them by trading partners tired of hemmorhaging money due to Beijing's wanton currency manipulation. We already see some construction projects beginning to slow or be put on hold.

Shanghai Tower will, of course, be completed - it's a central prestige project for the city and the country, in the same way (though nowhere near to the same degree) as 1 WTC is for the US. We can be certain that the shape of the status of the market would not be allowed to prevent its completion if things turned sour in the near future.

[BStyles]

Update from Samhou, at t.sina.com.cn:


And an unknown author from the same website, 1899616970 for now:

[Fabb]

It looks very different. Most of the scaffolding is gone and I can see steel columns outside the concrete core.
Thanks for the update !

[DigitalNinja]

It's coming along nicely, any idea what the other building next to it will be?

[davidinasia]

I happened to be near ST a couple of nights ago and thought I would see what was going on.

Whoever posted the blueprints a few pages back did a great thing. Very illuminating. The structure is remarkably complex (even more so than it appears from the outside) with striking differences between sections.

At the site now, one can see the lower core with its nine-part structure, complete to level 11. All the steel is specially fabricated; no building using standard beams to save money.

Up close, the core is just huge - it has a horizontal area as big as most completed buildings, and that is only the core! ST is really a monster.

Another weird thing about this building, is the arrangement of the cranes; there are four now, all affixed on stands to the side of the core. I have never seen this arrangement on any building before. Perhaps they plan to jack the crane bases up as the building rises, since otherwise, the bottom of the crane would obstruct the outer part of each floor that has to be built around the core.

ST backed by Jin Mao and WFC.



closeup of the cranes



another shot



different angle



the third "brother" taking shape

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

question,is there a possibility of this one taking as long as SWFC did?

[R@ptor]

I took those today:

[Fabb]

The steel beams that will form the floors don't seem to be attached to the concrete core.
I surprised... unless I miss something in the picture.

[The Chemist]

Originally Posted by SkyscrapersOfNewYork

question,is there a possibility of this one taking as long as SWFC did?

Not likely. This is at least partly being financed by the government, so it's likely that it'll be full speed ahead until completion.

[The Imster]

While the building will be taller than the World Financial centre - i dont think that it will be better looking - it will be an awesome sight - three gigantic buildings near each other - i would love to see them. China and the Middle East are the SKYSCRAPER Kings!

[Infernal_Elf]

Originally Posted by The Imster

While the building will be taller than the World Financial centre - i dont think that it will be better looking - it will be an awesome sight - three gigantic buildings near each other - i would love to see them. China and the Middle East are the SKYSCRAPER Kings!

yes indeed they are really booming these days

will be such an amazing trio when done and i wonder when china will go for the worlds tallest building

[rjb001]

Originally Posted by BStyles

And an unknown author from the same website, 1899616970 for now:

Woah! That looks like the same kind of structural tube system as the Sears Tower!

[Roadcruiser1]

I am sure that this is what the Chicago Spire site would have looked like if construction had continued on to the next level.

[JDRCRASH]

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

I am sure that this is what the Chicago Spire site would have looked like if construction had continued on to the next level.

Has anything happened to the pit, or the site in general?

[STR]

Originally Posted by rjb001

Woah! That looks like the same kind of structural tube system as the Sears Tower!

Actually, this building isn't at all similar to the Sears Tower. First of all, the Sears Tower doesn't have a concrete core. In fact, Sears really doesn't have a core in the same sense a building like this does. There are no load-bearing core walls, the regular structure is the same throughout the building. It actually isn't too different from the structural system of older buildings like Empire State, it just has some of the columns moved around to create larger areas of column-free space.

This tower has more in common with Taipei 101. A central, defined structural core with outrigger supercolumns.

[Inkoumori]

So nice! Let's go.

[phoenixboi08]

I will be seeing this tommorrow!