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Old Posted Mar 13, 2017, 6:45 AM
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Am I the only one who finds the old NDP mantra that the Liberals "campaign from the left and govern from the right" a bit hypocritical, given that (yes of course they've never governed federally) that almost every NDP government I can think of on the provincial levels have been rather centrist? People forget that Bob Rae was such a disaster in Ontario not because he actually governed like a New Democrat, but because he did the opposite of what he campaigned for on so many things (particularly labour relations and social program spending). The most recent Saskatchewan and Manitoba tenures of NDP government were classic centrist Third Way, fiscally centre-right and socially centre-left ideology. I'm less familiar with their track record in BC during the 90s, can somebody fill me in on that (other than just saying "it was a disaster/it was great")?
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2017, 6:46 AM
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as someone with roots in northern mb i feel that leaning to ashton i missed the debate due to working but was fallowing blips her dad was posting on facebook. have to look at w was said to decide after that
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2017, 6:48 AM
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Maybe the 10-15% of the electorate that are pure socialist should start a new party of their own. (Perhaps a Canadian Labour Party?)

The New Democrats should keep aiming for the direction that Jack Layton started.
How would you really distinguish between that 10-15% of the electorate that you say are "pure socialist", and the 5-15% of the electorate that also vote NDP but are more about the "direction that Jack Layton started", and the Trudeau Liberals?
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How would you really distinguish between that 10-15% of the electorate that you say are "pure socialist", and the 5-15% of the electorate that also vote NDP but are more about the "direction that Jack Layton started", and the Trudeau Liberals?
I guess maybe listening to the members and delegates. Since I made that comment, I've changed my tune slightly. I think the more the NDP tries to fight for the centre the more they will be attacked by the Liberals. Unless the party moves left, they will always be outdone by the Liberals.

It was a decent debate yesterday. I'm hoping Sid Ryan and Jagmeet Singh join the race to make things more interesting.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2017, 3:07 AM
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I really don't know if trying to tack one way or another is as critically important as just having a leader that people can trust, having a coherent set of policies (the NDP platform in 2015 was anything but coherent) and talking about issues that people care about. The NDP shouldn't settle for third place, they should try to win every election. Otherwise, what's the point?
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