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Old Posted Oct 19, 2013, 12:28 AM
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Lions Gate WWTP Replacement - Norgate | Proposed

Couldn't find a thread for this so here we go.

Here's the link to Metro Vancouver's website for the project.

http://www.metrovancouver.org/servic...s/default.aspx

Project Definition: Jan 2012 - Dec 2013
The Project Definition Phase will determine the scope of the upgrade and will include recommendations on how to procure the next phase of work – the Design and Construction Phase.

This Phase, currently underway, is guided by an Integrative Design Process (IDP) that brings together technical experts, community interests, and decision makers. In early 2013, design ideas and concepts were screened and three build scenarios prepared. These scenarios will be reviewed throughout 2013. By December an indicative design – which combines the best components from the three scenarios - will define the scope of work so the Design and Construction Phase can commence in 2014.

Design and Construction: Jan 2014 - Dec 2020
Once the Metro Vancouver Board approves recommendations in the Project Definition Report, the project will proceed to the Design and Construction Phase, which is planned for the period 2014 to 2020.

Existing Plant Decommissioning: 2021

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http://www.metrovancouver.org/servic...s/default.aspx


Article from the North Shore Outlook:

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Norgate sewage plant odour fears 'flushed'


An artist's rendering shows a conceptual design for the planned Lions Gate sewage treatment plant at West First Street and Pemberton Avenue.

By Maria Spitale-Leisk - North Shore Outlook
Published: October 12, 2013 2:00 PM
Updated: October 12, 2013 3:33 PM

Norgate residents have been offered $30 million worth of assurance — in the form of a two-stage odour control system — that no stench will escape from a new Lions Gate sewage treatment plant and permeate their community.

But how that odour containment infrastructure will be paid for, along with the rest of the estimated $500- to $700-million plant replacement project, remains to be seen.

Metro Vancouver hosted their last major public information meeting — on Thursday evening at Norgate elementary — before staff finalizes the preferred conceptual design for the new sewage plant.

The regional body's utilities committee chair, North Vancouver City Mayor Darrell Mussatto, made some opening remarks at the meeting.

"As many of you know the time has come for us to replace our Lions Gate Wastewater Treatment Plant, following more than 50 years of service," Mussatto told the assembled group comprised mainly of North Shore residents and Metro staff.

"It's hard to imagine but before that we just dumped it right into the chuck. So it was a remarkable improvement then, and we now have to take another giant leap forward."

The new sewage treatment plant will be located in an industrial zone at West First Street and Pemberton Avenue — two kilometres east of the old one.

Three short-listed design options, each with an overarching objective, were presented to the public earlier this year. The preferred design focuses on establishing community partnerships for the facility.

Meanwhile, the other options looked at a more advanced tertiary treatment that would exceed new federal standards around ocean pollution, and generating energy from waste, respectively.

Metro is, however, integrating a heat recovery system into the new wastewater treatment facility that could be tapped by North Van district's future energy system and the existing Lonsdale Energy Corporation.

An artist’s rendering depicts an elongated facility with solids handling contained at the west end of the plant and administrative offices and a multi-purpose space for educational groups on the other side.

The plans call for a public plaza with a reclaimed water feature, a rooftop viewing area that looks out to the waterfront and a green space buffer between the sidewalk along West First Street and the facility.

The 80 or so people who attended Thursday’s public information session were asked, by way of an electronic audience response system, if the overall design represented community values. The instant results posted on a large screen at the front of the room revealed 65 per cent of participants in the survey agreed that it does.

A second question was also asked: Does the preferred design address potential community impacts? Fifty-four per cent of respondents agreed that it does.

Edgemont Village resident Corrie Kost told The Outlook he wasn't given enough information to answer the questions.

“When are taxes going to go up as a result of this plant — before it's going to be completed or after?” questioned Kost. “You shouldn't pay any increased taxes until you start receiving the improvements.”

Construction impacts on the surrounding community was another concern voiced at the meeting. The sound of pile driving during foundation preparation for the new Vancouver Convention Centre carried across the water and impacted the Norgate neighbourhood, said one area resident.

“This is much closer. Are you going to be using the same technology on this site,” the man asked Metro staff.

He was told the new wastewater treatment plant would be designed to survive a large earthquake and therefore likely require a significantly strong foundation.

As part of Metro’s community engagement process for the Lions Gate wastewater plant project, a public advisory committee was formed.

“Our role is to discover and elicit from the community what the values, community concerns and community aspirations for this project are,” said Christine Banham, chair of the project’s public advisory committee.

The 15 or so committee members represent Norgate residents, other North Shore communities and broader interests including environmental issues.

Metro struck another subcommittee this month to look at procurement options for the new plant. Currently, they are investigating two key federal funding programs: the Building Canada Plan and the P3 Canada Fund (public-private partnership).

Announced by Ottawa last year, there is no application process available yet for the Building Canada Plan, which contains $10 billion for infrastructure improvements of “national, regional and local significance.”

Mussatto was frank about the imminent financial impact for North Shore taxpayers.

“It's safe to say that you will see an increase in your sewage utility, and to what degree we still don't have enough information,” he told the meeting.

“It's safe to say that if we don't get any funding it would be a very significant increase — so much so that I believe the Metro Vancouver board would not be proceeding with the project if there was no cost-sharing formula with the provincial government.”

Afterwards, Mussatto told The Outlook, without financial support from the other governments, North Shore taxpayers’ sewage rates could soar as high as four times what they are paying now.

Under 2013 utility rates, sewage fees for a detached home are $247.50 in the city and $521 in the district.

Mussatto wants Metro to move away from the current funding model for wastewater capital projects, where the benefitting area pays 30 per cent of the cost and the other municipalities chip in the rest.

The preferred design concept for the new Lions Gate wastewater plant will go before the Metro Vancouver board for a decision on Nov. 15.

A current timeline calls for a six-year design and construction phase starting next year, making the plant operational by 2020.
http://www.northshoreoutlook.com/news/227531211.html
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I have a feeling this thread will be around for a loooooonnnnnng time. Good to start it though, it is a absolutely huge project. It's location is a little more conducive to updates than the similarly huge Capilano-Seymour Filtration project.
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Sort of related, it will be interesting to see what happens with any other government funding. Better get some desalination plants built before the North Shore cuts off the water taps.

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Metro Vancouver's board voted Friday to overhaul its formula for regionally sharing the astronomical costs of new sewage treatment plants, but stopped short of providing the level of relief sought by Vancouver and the North Shore.

In a 64-60 weighted vote, directors from Surrey, Burnaby and the Tri-Cities carried the day, insisting the revised formula must be more fair to their residents than staff had proposed.

The new projects – the replacement of first the Lions Gate and then the Iona sewage treatment plants at a combined cost of perhaps $1.6 billion – will dramatically drive up Metro sewage fees, particularly for residents in the benefitting areas of the North Shore and Vancouver.

Their representatives wanted 70 per cent of capital costs of all future projects to be spread across the region, while 30 per cent would fall on the local area.

Instead, the compromise formula that passed gives more credit to contributions to past projects by cities in the eastern parts of the region.

Under the new formula:

• North Shore annual sewage fees are expected to rise from $267 now to $715 by 2030.

• Fraser sewerage area homes (Surrey, Burnaby, Tri-Cities and other eastern cities that use Annacis) go from $182 now to $319 by 2030.

• Vancouver fees go from $197 to $495.

• Lulu Island sewerage area (most of Richmond) goes from $247 to $471.

The staff-recommended formula would have spread the pain further yet, cutting 2030 costs on the North Shore to $678 per home and raising them slightly elsewhere.

"I don't think that's right, I don't think that's fair to the people in my community," said Burnaby Mayor Derek Corrigan.

He said Burnaby and cities to the east have paid more for years for secondary treatment at the Annacis Island treatment plant, which Vancouver and the North Shore refused to contribute extra to then.

"I'd like to see Vancouver and the North Shore reimburse those of us who have been paying more for decades," added Richmond Coun. Harold Steves.

Vancouver Coun. Raymond Louie urged directors to agree to the 70-30 formula to level the playing field and ensure the same battle isn't refought again in a decade or so when Annacis needs to be expanded.

If Metro directors had refused any change in the formula, North Shore fees would have hit $834 per home by 2030.

Even with the compromise formula, North Vancouver District Mayor Richard Walton said he doesn't look forward to explaining to North Shore residents why it will cost so much more to flush a toilet there than south of the Fraser.

Walton said they might well wonder why South of Fraser residents pay the same price for water as residents of the North Shore, where the water comes from.
http://www.northshoreoutlook.com/news/232135261.html
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My condo doesn't even monitor water. Now excuse me while I go take a 30 minute shower.
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Yes metered water is the solution. I'm not sure how hard something like that is to implement across Metro Vancouver, as it would also have to be done all at once.
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You could just make municipalities who don't meter pay a higher rate.. Give them an incentive to meter.

Metro Vancouver seems to be about shafting everyone else and with Surrey already on board with metering and I'm sure Robertson can't say no to a "green" project means we can screw Burnaby.
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I have a feeling this thread will be around for a loooooonnnnnng time. Good to start it though, it is a absolutely huge project. It's location is a little more conducive to updates than the similarly huge Capilano-Seymour Filtration project.
The filter plant is pretty much done anyways.

Just the tunnel is remaining. Should be finished next year some time. I'd love to give updates, but litigation is going to be ongoing for quite some time.
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I thought it would be interesting for people to see some footage about the construction of the current bridge.

http://youtu.be/QqydOmG06Is
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wow thanks for the scary video. I could not imagine walking done fir planks dropped on cables that are swaying in the wind
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I thought it would be interesting for people to see some footage about the construction of the current bridge.

http://youtu.be/QqydOmG06Is
Cool vid but this thread is for the waste water treatment plant.
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Possible heat recovery system for the Lions Gate WWTP:

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2014/10/21...ld-be-bc-first
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Lions Gate Wastewater Treatment Plant is to be finally replaced!
It's been planned for a while - and we've seen renderings before - but the Feds and Province came through with funding.

Metro Vancouver website:

http://www.metrovancouver.org/lionsgate

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No more stink: North Shore sewage treatment plant to be relocated in $700M project

By Jill Slattery
Global News
March 11, 2017 6:50 pm

The sewage treatment plant located beneath the Lions Gate Bridge in West Vancouver will be relocated to North Vancouver, at a cost of $700 million.

The governments of Canada and B.C. announced joint funding of up to $405 million on Saturday toward the construction of a new Lions Gate Secondary Wastewater Treatment Plant, which will be relocated from the Squamish Nation Reserve to a location in the District of North Vancouver owned by Metro Vancouver.

The remaining $295 million will be paid by Metro Vancouver.

The facility, which serves North and West Vancouver and the Squamish Nation, will conserve and reclaim water within the plan and will include both indoor and outdoor spaces for education and public outreach. It will be built at its new location, at 1311 West 1st Street, to LEED gold standards and reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 75 per cent.


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The B.C. government estimates the new site will be completed by December 2020 and create more than 6,500 jobs.

Metro Vancouver says the new facility has been in the works for eight years, but it has been waiting to secure provincial and federal funding for the project, which needs to be completed by the end of 2020 to meet new federal regulations.

The federal government stepped up in March 2016 with a $212 million promise to contribute to the project, but the province stalled on its contribution announcement for at least a year.

A spokesperson for Metro Vancouver said the province’s announcement “comes just under the wire, but enables the project to be completed on schedule and hopefully on budget.”

Mussatto said Saturday’s funding announcement marked the largest amount of infrastructure funding given to Metro Vancouver in its history.

The old facility will be decommissioned in 2021 and turned back over to Squamish Nation. There is no word yet on what the First Nation plans to do with the land, but Mussatto said there are long-term plans for residential development.

Construction is slated to begin this spring.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3303773/no...-700m-project/
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^ Happy to hear the news, but I'm not surprised in the least that the provincial government dragged its heels for a year, presumably so that an announcement could be made just before the election.
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How appropriate that it occupies the site of the old BC Rail Station, empty thanks to lyin' Gordon Campbell and the BC Libs breaking their election promise about BC Rail.
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Lions Gate Wastewater Treatment Plant is to be finally replaced!
It's been planned for a while - and we've seen renderings before - but the Feds and Province came through with funding.

Metro Vancouver website:

http://www.metrovancouver.org/lionsgate


http://globalnews.ca/news/3303773/no...-700m-project/
Noice. I noticed they were clearing brush from the site yesterday. They took so long it was starting to turn back into forest, despite being paved.

Really hope it actually doesn't smell, I drive down 1st nearly every day.
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Yes, I'm aware of what they're promising.
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