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Old Posted Mar 15, 2017, 2:51 PM
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New YUL flight.

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MONTREAL, March 15, 2017 /PRNewswire/ - Air Canada announced today the return of daily year-round service between Montreal and Washington Dulles (IAD) starting May 1, 2017, offering more choice for customers travelling between Montreal and the Washington, D.C., Metro area. In addition to well-timed connections to Air Canada's extensive network to Europe and North Africa, flights will also offer one-stop service to/from Quebec and Eastern Canada including Bagotville, Sept-Îles, Quebec City, Fredericton, Moncton, Bathurst, Saint John and Halifax. Special introductory fares start as low as $191 one-way, all in, and tickets are now available for purchase at aircanada.com or through travel agents.

"We are happy to once again operate Montreal-Washington Dulles (IAD) flights that complement our existing twice daily flights to Washington National Airport and strengthen our market presence in the Washington, D.C., Metro area," said Benjamin Smith, President, Passenger Airlines, at Air Canada. "We continue to strategically grow our transborder network in support of our commitment to expand our global reach from Montreal-Trudeau reinforcing it as a hub that offers convenient connections from points throughout Quebec and Eastern Canada and to Air Canada's extensive international network including Paris, Brussels, Frankfurt and Casablanca."

The daily non-stop Air Canada Express service will be operated with 50-seat Bombardier CRJ-100 aircraft. All flights provide for Aeroplan accumulation and redemption, Star Alliance reciprocal benefits and, for eligible customers, priority check-in, Maple Leaf Lounge access, priority boarding and other benefits.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2017, 2:57 PM
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About time!!!!

Air Canada Adds Daily Vancouver-Boston Flights to Growing Transborder Network for Summer 2017

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VANCOUVER, March 15, 2017 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada announced today the introduction of daily summer seasonal service between Vancouver and Boston starting June 23, 2017 until September 4, 2017. Special introductory fares start as low as $243 one-way, all in, and tickets are now available for purchase at aircanada.com or through travel agents.

"We continue to strategically expand our transborder network and we are excited to link Vancouver and Boston with daily non-stop flights this summer, complementing our existing Boston services from Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa and Halifax. These new non-stop flights will shave two hours of travel time for customers travelling between the Canadian West Coast and the U.S. northeastern seaboard. Customers travelling from the Greater Boston area, the sixth most populous area in the U.S., will also enjoy convenient connections at our YVR hub to Western Canada and to our daily flights to both Sydney and Brisbane, Australia, featuring competitive elapsed times," said Benjamin Smith, President, Passenger Airlines, at Air Canada.

The new non-stop services will be operated by Air Canada starting June 23, 2017 with 120-seat Airbus A319 aircraft offering a choice of Business and Economy Class service. All flights provide for Aeroplan accumulation and redemption, Star Alliance reciprocal benefits and, for eligible customers, priority check-in, Maple Leaf Lounge access at the Vancouver hub, priority boarding and other benefits.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2017, 7:00 PM
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Some very sad news from St Hubert (CYHU) over the weekend. As a controller myself this is my worst fear. My heart and sympathy goes out to all those involved. Obviously it's far too early to speculate what caused the collision, but I am interested to see what TC will eventually report.

1 Dead after planes collide near St Hubert airport
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2017, 2:46 AM
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YHU is one of the busiest GA airports in the country. They do an awesome job dealing with all the foreign pilots that go through the flight schools there. This is truly a sad turn of events for the folks there and I feel for the victims and their families.

I was working at my tower when this happened, and having seen the replay of the radar footage, my heart sank when I saw both planes merging and disappearing from radar....

I obviously cannot comment on the situation any further, but what we know, according to the following article (among others)...

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loca...-student-pilot

2 Chinese pilots, 21 and 23 years old, each on a solo flight, one with 40 hours, the other with 140 hours experience.

One of the pilots did not respond to four attempts to contact him. The planes crashed after one of the pilots inexplicably changed altitude.

Sad, sad turn of events, that will scar all the people involved (families, pilots and controllers) for the rest of their lives.
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I was thinking of the connectivity our airports provide and I put together a list looking at the population Canadian airports are connected to via direct flights (or semi-direct like Philippine YYZ-YVR-MNL or AC's YYZ-SCL-EZE).

Turns out our cities are pretty well connected and there are some interesting results.



Some things I discovered:
  • Montreal is connected to a lot of smaller cities, with by far the lowest average size, whereas Vancouver is connected to fewer much larger cities.
  • Cities connected to Vancouver are over twice the size on average vs those connected to Montreal. Calgary's average city is nearly 3 times the size of Montreal's.
  • Average population of city Calgary is connected to is a staggering 16 million.
  • Toronto is connected to more or less half a billion people.
  • Asian cities are big, like really big.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 1:28 AM
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Nice compilation, but ultimately meaningless.

All those Chinese megacities with tens of millions of people. What percentage do you think can afford a plane ticket to YVR?

Flying might be taken for granted here in North America, but it is still very much a luxury for the vast majority of Earth's population.

I can assure you half a billion people cannot simply fly off to YYZ. Not even close.

Simple arithmetic can be deceiving.

n.b.14 million Londoners will have a hard time flying non stop to YEG on 16 or so flights a year.....!

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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 1:40 AM
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Nice compilation, but ultimately meaningless.

All those Chinese megacities with tens of millions of people. What percentage do you think can afford a plane ticket to YVR?

Flying might be taken for granted here in North America, but it is still very much a luxury for the vast majority of Earth's population.

I can assure you half a billion people cannot simply fly off to YYZ. Not even close.

Simple arithmetic can be deceiving.
Actually the January figures for tourism for British Columbia or YVR were very good.This is what I placed in the provincial economies thread but it could also be shown here.

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The tourism industry is “booming” in British Columbia, according to provincial government data that showed increases in visits from several different countries.

Overall, tourist visits grew more than 9% year-over-year in January. The biggest boost came from China; visits from that country increased almost 56%. This was followed by increases in visitors from Australia (up 37%), Mexico (up 37%) and the United Kingdom (22%). A government press release said one of the biggest influences on the number of tourists is direct flights. The number of non-stop flights between Vancouver and airports in mainland China, Hong Kong and Taipei has been increasing steadily over the past year, and this trend is expected to continue. In January, there were 84 direct flights per week, and this is expected to increase to 104 by July.

“Both China and Australia saw increases in air capacity to British Columbia,” the press release said. “These new flights are due in part to the province eliminating the international jet fuel tax which has reduced costs for airlines.”

According to the B.C. government, each new flight creates 150-200 new jobs at Vancouver International Airport.
https://www.biv.com/article/2017/3/t...na-55-january/

I should note there are many Canadians whom cannot afford to fly either. With the sheer numbers in China's growing middle class. It certainly does mean something.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 5:10 AM
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Great work, leftcoaster. i think of:

1) Further potential growth from asia (esp china and other developing asian countries) will be a massive driver for air traffic

2) what will happen to established TATL flows with the rise of LCCs?

3) did anyone try or think of trying YUL-TYO?
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 9:53 AM
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Nice compilation, but ultimately meaningless.

All those Chinese megacities with tens of millions of people. What percentage do you think can afford a plane ticket to YVR?

Flying might be taken for granted here in North America, but it is still very much a luxury for the vast majority of Earth's population.
Per capita in China, not many, but in raw numbers? Hard to say. There's a lot of poverty in China still (especially out west), but there's is an obscene amount of wealth too. A lot of middle class Chinese in the major cities.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 3:57 PM
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Leftcoaster, cool lists.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 6:32 PM
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Per capita in China, not many, but in raw numbers? Hard to say. There's a lot of poverty in China still (especially out west), but there's is an obscene amount of wealth too. A lot of middle class Chinese in the major cities.
Ya aren't there as many class Chinese as the entire population of Canada? Or more? And millionaires are created daily there lots of all kinds of people.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 6:42 PM
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Pearson with a big increase in passengers, 8% for the year.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 9:26 PM
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Nice compilation, but ultimately meaningless.
Thanks for the feedback...

I think the stats about who actually flies places is more than hashed out, in you know, the passenger statistics, so I thought this was a fun different way to look at our airports.

Wasn't really implying anything with who can afford to fly where.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 11:06 PM
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Ya aren't there as many class Chinese as the entire population of Canada? Or more? And millionaires are created daily there lots of all kinds of people.
I don't have exact numbers (no one does, really), but the government claims to have moved over 600 million people above the poverty line in the past couple of decades. Take that for what you will. There's certainly more middle class Chinese than the population of Canada though. A lot more.
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I don't have exact numbers (no one does, really), but the government claims to have moved over 600 million people above the poverty line in the past couple of decades. Take that for what you will. There's certainly more middle class Chinese than the population of Canada though. A lot more.
Some are suggesting the Chinese consumer will be a central diver in the future.

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The American consumer has been a central driver of the global economy for decades. Fortunately for the overburdened American consumer, China’s middle class is going to be picking up more of the slack.

China’s middle class is on fire. According to a study by consulting firm McKinsey & Company, 76 percent of China’s urban population will be considered middle class by 2022. That’s defined as urban households that earn US$9,000 – US$34,000 a year. (That might not sound like a lot, but adjusted for prices, it delivers a roughly comparable “middle class” existence to other countries.) In 2000, just 4 percent of the urban population was considered middle class.
http://www.businessinsider.com/china...ploding-2016-8

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For the first time in China’s history a huge middle class now sits between the ruling elite and the masses. McKinsey, a consultancy, estimates its size at around 225m households, compared with just 5m in 2000, using an annual income of 75,000-280,000 yuan ($11,500-43,000) as a yardstick. It predicts that between now and 2020 another 50m households will join its ranks. They are spread across the country, but are highly concentrated in urban areas (see map); around 80% of them own property; and they include many of the Communist Party’s 88m members.
http://www.economist.com/news/specia...ever-threatens
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Thanks for the feedback...

I think the stats about who actually flies places is more than hashed out, in you know, the passenger statistics, so I thought this was a fun different way to look at our airports.

Wasn't really implying anything with who can afford to fly where.
Don't defend yourself LeftCoaster! Your post was very interesting, both in and of itself, and for a number of speculations it may give rise to. It is good to see something (anything) through a new perspective. Thanks for the work.

The response by thenoflyzone suffers from being the same kind of "useless" as it was claiming your work to be. thenoflyzone needs to get its head back from its butt.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2017, 1:32 AM
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Thanks for the feedback...

I think the stats about who actually flies places is more than hashed out, in you know, the passenger statistics
Not "who".

Bob the businessman living in downtown T.O and flying out of YTZ 3 times a week for business counts for 312 of the 2.5 million passengers that use that airport. So no, passenger statistics don't give us an accurate metric of who flies. Just how often the few fly !

It would be interesting to find out how many individual flyers an airports sees a year. Now that would surely be an interesting compilation.

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Don't defend yourself LeftCoaster! Your post was very interesting, both in and of itself, and for a number of speculations it may give rise to. It is good to see something (anything) through a new perspective. Thanks for the work.

The response by thenoflyzone suffers from being the same kind of "useless" as it was claiming your work to be. thenoflyzone needs to get its head back from its butt.
Wow, bold letters no less !

I'm sorry, who are you again? I can't really see, since, you know, apparently i have my head up my arse...
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Some are suggesting the Chinese consumer will be a central diver in the future.



http://www.businessinsider.com/china...ploding-2016-8



http://www.economist.com/news/specia...ever-threatens
I agree the middle class in China is going to be a major economic driver. Driven by disposable income and the massive number of people.

However a family income of below $40k is not going to drive massive tourism to Canada. The number that are in the upper middle class is far more interesting.
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Not "who".

Bob the businessman living in downtown T.O and flying out of YTZ 3 times a week for business counts for 312 of the 2.5 million passengers that use that airport. So no, passenger statistics don't give us an accurate metric of who flies. Just how often the few fly !

It would be interesting to find out how many individual flyers an airports sees a year. Now that would surely be an interesting compilation.



Wow, bold letters no less !

I'm sorry, who are you again? I can't really see, since, you know, apparently i have my head up my arse...
Who am I? You don't really care. Regardless, don't sweat it. (I know, you're not.) The post was in support of 'the other guy.'
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2017, 1:00 PM
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Sources on flyertalk saying that YUL-TLV on AC is now showing B789, at least internally.
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