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Old Posted Oct 9, 2014, 1:10 PM
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PhiLaw already posted this^^^ in the Dev. Thread.. thought I'd add to it here.

Also, developer states 11 ft high ceilings. 26 floors x 11 ft = 286ft.
But there's the lobby and the mechanical stuff on top ... so guessing maybe 325ft ish?

There was a little debate a few months back (see above) - if it will be taller than Penn Mutual Tower at 375 ft. I'm guessing - probably not.

However, I don't care here - whether it's 325 or 400ft etc.... This is great news, and that tower looks sleek as hell.

Ground breaking should be early 2015 definitely, since the target opening date is Spring 2017. Very cool.
Yep! It will be great. I like this design a lot more that 1706 Rittenhouse. Should be quite visible in the skyline from certain vantage points too. SLS also will be based on their website renderings.
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2014, 2:45 PM
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PhiLaw already posted this^^^ in the Dev. Thread.. thought I'd add to it here.

Also, developer states 11 ft high ceilings. 26 floors x 11 ft = 286ft.
But there's the lobby and the mechanical stuff on top ... so guessing maybe 325ft ish?

There was a little debate a few months back (see above) - if it will be taller than Penn Mutual Tower at 375 ft. I'm guessing - probably not.

However, I don't care here - whether it's 325 or 400ft etc.... This is great news, and that tower looks sleek as hell.

Ground breaking should be early 2015 definitely, since the target opening date is Spring 2017. Very cool.
11 X 26 = 286
Plus probably 20 foot lobby = 306
Plus probably 40 feet for top of building/mechanical = 346
Plus 7 inches per floor slab in between floors. 7 X 27 = 189 inches or 15 feet

Total: 361 feet. Now numbers may be off in some slots so I believe the 361 number is correct.
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2014, 3:16 PM
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11 X 26 = 286
Plus probably 20 foot lobby = 306
Plus probably 40 feet for top of building/mechanical = 346
Plus 7 inches per floor slab in between floors. 7 X 27 = 189 inches or 15 feet

Total: 361 feet. Now numbers may be off in some slots so I believe the 361 number is correct.
Wouldn't there have to be significantly more than 7" between floors, to allow for mechanicals (HVAC ductwork, plumbing DWV, electrical boxes, etc.), finish materials, etc.? Given that one of the previously linked articles stated that this will be a bit taller than the 375-foot Penn Mutual Tower, and with the 11-foot ceilings, I'd stick with this being 380 feet until we have some authoritative statement to the contrary.
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2014, 3:40 PM
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Wouldn't there have to be significantly more than 7" between floors, to allow for mechanicals (HVAC ductwork, plumbing DWV, electrical boxes, etc.), finish materials, etc.? Given that one of the previously linked articles stated that this will be a bit taller than the 375-foot Penn Mutual Tower, and with the 11-foot ceilings, I'd stick with this being 380 feet until we have some authoritative statement to the contrary.
Sorry, that was a typo on my part! I meant the 380 number is probably correct - especially since the Developer specifically stated that number.
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Wouldn't there have to be significantly more than 7" between floors, to allow for mechanicals (HVAC ductwork, plumbing DWV, electrical boxes, etc.), finish materials, etc.? Given that one of the previously linked articles stated that this will be a bit taller than the 375-foot Penn Mutual Tower, and with the 11-foot ceilings, I'd stick with this being 380 feet until we have some authoritative statement to the contrary.
well 7" may be slab thickness but you are right you would need more than 11'7" per floor to get 11 ft ceilings in this building. If 11' is the height below finished ceiling you would still need at least 12-24" of space above that per floor for mechanicals.
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Really anything above 350' is really going to stand out. It will fit in nicely from this view.

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Although I really like the design, I hope it's not the same height as the neighboring towers. I find it an annoying habit in Philly of buildings being the same height as each other. Lots of that goes back to the old Gentleman's Agreement, but today, I'm hoping to see a bit more diversity in heights.

EDIT: I guess it's going to be 380 feet after all.

http://www.phillymag.com/property/20...er-500-walnut/
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Sweet.
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Although I really like the design, I hope it's not the same height as the neighboring towers. I find it an annoying habit in Philly of buildings being the same height as each other. Lots of that goes back to the old Gentleman's Agreement, but today, I'm hoping to see a bit more diversity in heights.

EDIT: I guess it's going to be 380 feet after all.

http://www.phillymag.com/property/20...er-500-walnut/
For those of you who didn't click on the link, you're missing out on a great rendering of this building in context:



I kinda agree with McBane here with regards to all the towers being the same height on that block. I imagine that the site isn't zoned for them to get much more height out of this building though.

EDIT: Post collision with TallCoolOne!

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On the other hand, you gotta love the diversity of architectural styles: classic pre-war limestone, 70's brutalism concrete, and modern glass/steel.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2014, 3:06 PM
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I love the look of this tower. Since the location of the building is near Old City and Society Hill, I imagine they couldn't get much more height out of the site since there are strict height limits in the area.
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In the current New Yorker magazine there is a full page ad for this property.

"Now Accepting Pre-Construction Reservations"
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This is one more "wait until next year" project. I hope all these "groundbreaking scheduled for 2015" projects actually come to fruition. The list of projects announced well before their developers are ready to start is growing by the month.
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This is one more "wait until next year" project. I hope all these "groundbreaking scheduled for 2015" projects actually come to fruition. The list of projects announced well before their developers are ready to start is growing by the month.
Which is a good thing because it was early last year where we got all excited for the Ucity projects that are rising now.

I was getting a little worried that the proposal section for Philly projects was becoming bare, but it seems things are coming together for a 2015 reload of new groundbreakings.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2014, 12:00 PM
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This is one more "wait until next year" project. I hope all these "groundbreaking scheduled for 2015" projects actually come to fruition. The list of projects announced well before their developers are ready to start is growing by the month.
This one will. There's already at least $60 million in preconstruction sales. I don't think they pushed the date either. It was always to be spring of 2015.
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Article on this. Prices range from $2.5 million to $8 million. Penthouse goes up to $17.6 million. If they actually get that price, that would be the highest residential Real Estate sale in Philadelphia City history.

http://articles.philly.com/2014-10-1...aterview-units
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2014, 2:47 PM
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Article on this. Prices range from $2.5 million to $8 million. Penthouse goes up to $17.6 million. If they actually get that price, that would be the highest residential Real Estate sale in Philadelphia City history.

http://articles.philly.com/2014-10-1...aterview-units
^^ Wow.
Hey, they are selling for $90mil+ at 432 Park Ave, NYC; all Philly needs is to get some of those Russian and Asian billionaires to enjoy our city as much as they do NYC ...and maybe more of these will pop up. You never know.
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Article on this from PlanPhilly. It has passed through the Planning Commission and the Historical Commission without any hiccups and has full approval to move forward.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/...5th-and-walnut
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Philly is booming.
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Article from curbed. Mostly info we know

http://philly.curbed.com/archives/20...t-new-york.php
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