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Old Posted May 12, 2014, 6:10 PM
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This project is being presented by NP International to the LSNA on Tuesday, May 13th. They will need zoning variances from the city, and they are requesting a letter on non-opposition from LSNA. There is one new rendering from the NP International site. Hopefully we will know more soon.




http://www.np-international.com/sele...ork/mixed-use/
this would really change the area - extend Arch all the way to the river so-to-speak

Looks like a decent amount of retail - not sure if anything but restaurants/bars/cafes would that well there
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Old Posted May 12, 2014, 6:26 PM
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this would really change the area - extend Arch all the way to the river so-to-speak

Looks like a decent amount of retail - not sure if anything but restaurants/bars/cafes would that well there
A grocery store would be perfect. Could have a few boutiques in there too. Doubt any national retailers would want a presence there however.
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A grocery store would be perfect. Could have a few boutiques in there too. Doubt any national retailers would want a presence there however.
There's a Trader Joe's right there and the new Wholefoods going in just across the parkway, another grocery store will have some tough competition.
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A grocery store would be perfect. Could have a few boutiques in there too. Doubt any national retailers would want a presence there however.
There is a small grocery a block away plus TJs like two blocks
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Couldn't even tell you how many people dislike shopping at Trader Joe's and whole foods. I was thinking something along the line of Giant or Superfresh. Maybe a super Walmart here? These businesses would not draw much business from Trader Joe's and Whole Foods if any.

Maybe even a Fresh Grocer would suit.
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Anyone know the developer? Is this is a legitimate development? The developer's website lacks anything remotely to this scale and most of their "selected" work is of the low to mid-rise variety. They certainly do not appear to be a power player with the track record to pull off something of this massive scope...

A little nervous that this, as that absurd River City proposal, is more bait and flip than shovels in the ground. Anyone know more?

The only thing I can add is that according to the notification, they have been in talks with a LSNA committee of near neighbors for almost a year to address concerns and incorporate suggestions. I would assume they are serious if they have been working with representatives living in the area but I guess we will know more after the meeting. Also, as summers pointed out, they mentioned a grocery store in a previous meeting. TJ's often has a line out the door to get into the store so I think the area could support another one, especially with all of the buildings going up in the next few years.
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A ShopRite would probably do well there.
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Not really a big fan of whole foods either but I mean that another grocery store will have to step up their game if/when they move in. An ACME like the one in Roxborough would just upset people as it is old, small, and not that nice.

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I thought a grocery store was part of the Marketplace Design Center building renovations? That is like three or four blocks away as well.
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I thought a grocery store was part of the Marketplace Design Center building renovations? That is like three or four blocks away as well.
It is, along with a few other retail outlets and apartment towers.
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Article on this from Plan Philly. There is a bill in city council to rezone the lot to accomodate the taller tower.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/...in-center-city
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Article on this from Plan Philly. There is a bill in city council to rezone the lot to accomodate the taller tower.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/...in-center-city
Yes! That's great news! (I hope?) From the article it sounds like that taller building may be 500 Ft. or close to it? And 300 ft. limit for the 2 smaller structures? It would be nice to get this one going too.
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Yes! That's great news! (I hope?) From the article it sounds like that taller building may be 500 Ft. or close to it? And 300 ft. limit for the 2 smaller structures? It would be nice to get this one going too.
The taller one would probably be about 490 feet and the smaller ones about 240 feet each.
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The taller one would probably be about 490 feet and the smaller ones about 240 feet each.
490 is nice...what's 10 feet among friends? lol
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This has been approved by the Planning Commission. It looks like the taller tower is 42 floors. The two smaller towers are 21 floors.

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Minnesota-based NP International will construct a 42-story skyscraper and a 21-story high-rise in Logan Square on a parcel bounded by the Schuylkill Riverfront, Cherry and 23rd streets, and JFK Boulevard, according to a presentation given to the Philadelphia City Planning Commission (PCPC) Tuesday.

The PCPC approved two bills that rezone the property to accommodate the developer's desired building height and allow retail space above the ground-floor.

The taller of the two towers will be built on a piece of land sandwiched between the Amtrak-owned bridge that runs east out of 30th Street Station and JFK Boulevard, while the smaller high-rise, a third building and a public plaza will rise from the flood-prone parking lot at 23rd and Cherry streets, the presentation showed.

The project, which includes residential, commercial and hospitality components, will add a pedestrian staircase and handicapped-accessible ramp from JFK Boulevard, which hovers about the Schuylkill, to the ground below at 23rd and Cuthbert streets – an area located beneath an overpass that holds several lines of train tracks.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...62724871.html#
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2014, 11:21 PM
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The specific plan still needs to be reviewed by multiple city agencies, but the PCPC’s rezoning approval and the support of the neighborhood association leave few hurdles in NP International’s way.
This is great news. That lot is so ugly, I am really hoping this project gets built.
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2014, 4:50 PM
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A little more information from LSNA

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River Walk at 23rd & Arch - Drafts of ordinances necessary for this project were submitted to LSNA several weeks ago and were modified following our input. These ordinances affect only this specific project. They will be presented at the Planning Commission on June 10 at 1 pm. The developer has not applied to L&I yet and some additional design work apparently still needs to be done. When all that has been completed, they will begin the formal RCO process with us. It is likely that the required RCO will not be until our September Board meeting.
https://docs.google.com/a/lsnaphilly...VkZWFhMjNkZjhj
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2014, 5:27 PM
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Interesting Also in there is a 26 story tower at 23rd and Cherry. If these and the new Tower at 23rd and Vine go in this area will add a lot residents and height


On the Riverwalk images - anyone else note the ground level parking under the complex - doesn't this area flood regularly?
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Interesting Also in there is a 26 story tower at 23rd and Cherry. If these and the new Tower at 23rd and Vine go in this area will add a lot residents and height


On the Riverwalk images - anyone else note the ground level parking under the complex - doesn't this area flood regularly?
Very nice that this project and the 26 story 23rd and Cherry tower could get going later this year or early next year.

I was actually told that the Edgewater II project may get going next year.
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Another article on this being approved:

http://www.phillyliving.com/blog/201...ll-waterfront/
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