HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForumSkyscraper Posters
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Vancouver > Transportation & Infrastructure

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #61  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 6:18 AM
WarrenC12 WarrenC12 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East OV!
Posts: 6,497
I like them. Any idea if/when they will actually be running on NG?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #62  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 7:52 AM
jollyburger jollyburger is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 996
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenC12 View Post
I like them. Any idea if/when they will actually be running on NG?
Quote:
The vessels are dual-fuel, so they can operate on natural gas or ultra-low sulphur marine diesel. BC Ferries intends to operate the vessels with natural gas to improve its environmental footprint and reduce operating costs.
https://www.bcferries.com/bcferries/...nts?id=1012774
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #63  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 5:12 PM
WarrenC12 WarrenC12 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East OV!
Posts: 6,497
So day 1? I didn't think the infrastructure was available yet at the Terminals.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #64  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 9:49 PM
Alex Mackinnon's Avatar
Alex Mackinnon Alex Mackinnon is offline
Can I has a tunnel?
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Strathcona
Posts: 1,461
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenC12 View Post
So day 1? I didn't think the infrastructure was available yet at the Terminals.
It could be that they plan on bunkering straight off a barge?
__________________
"It's ok, I'm an engineer!" -Famous last words
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #65  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 10:55 PM
officedweller officedweller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 24,197
Quote:
Originally Posted by fredinno View Post
pretty much BC Ferries Cruises in a nutshell.
"BC Ferries Vacations"


https://www.bcferriesvacations.com/contact-us/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #66  
Old Posted Feb 18, 2017, 5:19 AM
casper casper is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,051
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenC12 View Post
So day 1? I didn't think the infrastructure was available yet at the Terminals.
Not certain if the plan has changed. But when announced the plan was to do it the same way as diesel.

During a period that the ship is not in operation a tanker drives into the lower car deck, the connect the houses and fill it up.

https://www.fortisbc.com/MediaCentre...w-vessels.aspx
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #67  
Old Posted Feb 18, 2017, 5:31 AM
jollyburger jollyburger is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 996
And two other ferries are being converted as well.

Quote:
Ferries has announced that they have awarded a $140 million contract to Remontowa Ship Repair Yard S.A. of Gdansk, Poland to conduct mid-life upgrades to the Spirit of British Columbia and the Spirit of Vancouver Island – making them capable of operating on LNG.
https://www.fortisbc.com/MediaCentre...ls-to-LNG.aspx
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #68  
Old Posted Feb 18, 2017, 5:34 AM
WarrenC12 WarrenC12 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East OV!
Posts: 6,497
Quote:
Originally Posted by casper View Post
Not certain if the plan has changed. But when announced the plan was to do it the same way as diesel.

During a period that the ship is not in operation a tanker drives into the lower car deck, the connect the houses and fill it up.

https://www.fortisbc.com/MediaCentre...w-vessels.aspx
Thanks for the link. I didn't know regular trucks could transport LNG, I thought the pressure was too high. I wonder if Fortis will find it worthwhile to build a pipeline to Tsawwassen, assuming all filling can be done there as boats rotate through.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #69  
Old Posted Feb 18, 2017, 6:14 AM
casper casper is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,051
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenC12 View Post
Thanks for the link. I didn't know regular trucks could transport LNG, I thought the pressure was too high. I wonder if Fortis will find it worthwhile to build a pipeline to Tsawwassen, assuming all filling can be done there as boats rotate through.
I don't think LNG pipelines would work. All the LNG proposals being proposed used normal natural gas pipelines to get the gas to the terminal then have a liquefaction plant at the terminal just before being loaded onto a ship or tanker.

The tanker trucks are vacuum jacketed and designed for cryogenic temperatures.

The liquid is usually stored and transported at a fairly low pressure.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #70  
Old Posted Feb 18, 2017, 7:41 AM
fredinno fredinno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by casper View Post
I don't think LNG pipelines would work. All the LNG proposals being proposed used normal natural gas pipelines to get the gas to the terminal then have a liquefaction plant at the terminal just before being loaded onto a ship or tanker.

The tanker trucks are vacuum jacketed and designed for cryogenic temperatures.

The liquid is usually stored and transported at a fairly low pressure.
Yeah, it wouldn't. The extra work to deal with low temperatures on a pipeline isn't worth it.

I would expect a mini-LNG plant to be able to run in someone's garage.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #71  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 12:12 AM
officedweller officedweller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 24,197
Now Dutch-Romanian built "minor class" BC Ferries:


Image: Artistic rendering of BC Ferries' new minor class vessel. (BC Ferries)
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/dutch...erries-vessels

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/dutch...erries-vessels
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #72  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 12:17 AM
GeeCee's Avatar
GeeCee GeeCee is offline
zoom zoom
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Port Coquitlam, BC
Posts: 2,415
Looks good, but BC Ferries' recent shrinking of passenger compartments makes me a little sad.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #73  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 12:42 AM
officedweller officedweller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 24,197
Those minor ships replace the smaller ships with tiny cabins and open decks, so it's nice to see the car decks more enclosed.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #74  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 4:45 AM
whatnext whatnext is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 6,463
Quote:
Originally Posted by officedweller View Post
Now Dutch-Romanian built "minor class" BC Ferries:


Image: Artistic rendering of BC Ferries' new minor class vessel. (BC Ferries)
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/dutch...erries-vessels

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/dutch...erries-vessels
Has this deal been signed, or can the NDP/Greens call it off?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #75  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 5:30 AM
red-paladin's Avatar
red-paladin red-paladin is offline
Vancouver Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Burnaby
Posts: 3,287
If we're going to include discussion about this new class of Ferries, the title should be changed. Otherwise a new threat should be started.

Thoughts?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #76  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 6:32 AM
VancouverOfTheFuture's Avatar
VancouverOfTheFuture VancouverOfTheFuture is offline
Vancouverite
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 760
Quote:
Originally Posted by red-paladin View Post
If we're going to include discussion about this new class of Ferries, the title should be changed. Otherwise a new threat should be started.

Thoughts?
should keep it all in one thread. just rename it about "new BC Ferries" or something like that.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #77  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 5:03 PM
officedweller officedweller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 24,197
Agreed - "new BC Ferries" sounds good.

It was announced, so I expect it was signed.
It's also a contract that would have been signed by BC Ferries Corporation, not the Province.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #78  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 6:46 PM
whatnext whatnext is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 6,463
Quote:
Originally Posted by officedweller View Post
Agreed - "new BC Ferries" sounds good.

It was announced, so I expect it was signed.
It's also a contract that would have been signed by BC Ferries Corporation, not the Province.
Ah yes, the BC Liberal fiction that BC Ferries is somehow a private company.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #79  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2017, 6:58 PM
red-paladin's Avatar
red-paladin red-paladin is offline
Vancouver Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Burnaby
Posts: 3,287
Topic changed
Reply With Quote
     
     
End
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Vancouver > Transportation & Infrastructure
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 3:52 AM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.