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Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 9:10 PM
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I don't get the Erdy McHenry accolades. All their designs look like they try too hard to be cool and fail miserably. Between this, Evo, and the Drexel dorms.
Eww, all of those are hot garbage
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Their stuff looks dated before it's finished.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 10:25 PM
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Millennium Hall on Drexel's campus is not bad at all. His designs are more daring than most buildings that were built or under construction in the past few years. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Millennium Hall on Drexel's campus is not bad at all. His designs are more daring than most buildings that were built or under construction in the past few years. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
This post is being typed inside of Millennium Hall right now where I work.

From the outside and distant the building has edge and visual appeal. This structure, however, gets much less appealing the closer that you get to it. I'm unsure whether or not the design flaws (nothing structural) were the result of institutional input or EM not envisioning the spaces inside correctly. I remember Inga really having a problem with the way Millennium clashes with the scale of the surrounding Victorian neighborhood - there's something to that.

What the firm attempts to do with their designs is admirable, especially in this city but I think that they might be a bit hamstrung by the desires of institutional clients who want something that looks "cool" but doesn't actually work very well as a building that people have to use.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2017, 11:50 PM
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Millennium Hall on Drexel's campus is not bad at all. His designs are more daring than most buildings that were built or under construction in the past few years. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Millennium Hall is probably the least offensive of the bunch imo, it has some good elements. The others do too for sure, but they just seem incomplete/awkward.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2017, 12:13 AM
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@vz and jjv-good points all around. If you want to maximize all usable square footage in a building, you go for a vertical rectangle box. And, if you want to blend in with the surrounding buildings, you go for similar design and incorporate similar materials. But, I don't think that's what EM was going for. If you look at his website, you'll see other designs with similar characteristics that are in various projects. I'm no professional critic, but it's refreshing to have different designs in our city portfolio, good or meh, depending who you ask.
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I actually like Evo and the Drexel dorm. Both have character and add something to the skyline.

This? This looks like something that got processed out of the sewage treatment plant.
Erdy-McHenry is very hit-or-miss with their designs (although it seems like the misses are becoming more frequent these days).
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This being skyscraperpage, I understand that we may be more concerned about how a building looks from afar, and Millennium Hall doesn't look half bad from 5 blocks out.
But a building to me is a failure if it isn't able to engage at street level, so for me Millennium hall and many of the newer University City buildings fail miserably, unfortunately.
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But a building to me is a failure if it isn't able to engage at street level.
Yes! I would add that OCCUPANCY is the most important (with street-level engagement a close second). A building is successful if it is actually utilized for its intended use - opening up the debate are some uses better than others, but I will not go down that road for now.

A beautiful supertall that is 80% unoccupied to me is much worse than a mixed-use, average design mid-rise that is used by residents/visitors inside the building throughout the day as well as provides appropriate amenities for the public realm and neighborhood.
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Looks better in person, but that's not saying much (sorry to be a "negadelphian.")
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