Originally Posted by paulsparrow
Why the New West City??? So okay go build a 6 or even 8 lane Puttello and what is that going to do when you can't expand the main arteries that attach?
The bridge proposal should have gone further east to where it is a quick hook up with the #1 and the main arteries could have been expanded to handle a higher volume of traffic.
Why do you have to expand the main arteries? This argument is common yet lacking in any kind of logic.
In New Westminster, there are 6 lanes of traffic that directly flow to, and 6 lanes that flow away from the Pattullo.
Going to the bridge you have:
- McBride with 2 lanes that merge down to 1 lane.
- Royal with 2 lanes (3 in some spots) that merge down to 1 lane
- Columbia/Front with 2 lanes that merge down to one, then needs to yield for the lane coming off Royal. Except during rush hour when that ramp is closed so the traffic is added to Royal at 6th via Columbia, making traffic in downtown New West a nightmare until 6pm (trucks actually line up and wait at the ramp gate well before 6pm).
If you take out all the merging, and made a bridge that would freeflow lanes onto the bridge, you would need 6 lanes southbound. This would suck all the traffic out of New Westminster and make the roads there less congested with people waiting to get on the bridge. On the other side, in Surrey, you have already have 6 lanes Southbound (3 on Scott and 3 on King George (counting the merge from Scott that noone ever uses)). As it is, at the height of rush hour, once you are on the Surrey side of the bridge, traffic vanishes.
Because that is what the traffic in New Westminster is, people waiting for their turn to get on the bridge. It is not there isn't enough lanes in New Westminster. It is there are not enough lanes on the bridge.
For Northbound, as it is, there are 3 lanes down part of King George and 3 lanes on Scott. So you are again, merging 6 lanes down to 2. But in New Westminster, you also have 6 lanes heading away from the bridge.
All you really need to upgrade is Columbia near Sapperton Station. If both lanes on Columbia turned onto Brunette (and made it 2 lanes there instead of 1), most traffic problems would be solved. A lot of traffic on McBride is taking the long way through New West because it is just as fast to deal with 10th and Canada Way as it is to deal with the Columbia/Brunette turn. And I've never really had much trouble with traffic on Royal after coming off the bridge (it flows decent for a street through a city).
Which just goes to show how insane it is going to be during the repairs. It is going to be 12 lanes of traffic forced down to 2.
I'm not looking forward to it because I ride the 319 bus. It already gets stuck in heavy traffic around Scott Road Station, adding 10 minutes onto the trip. I can't imagine what it will be like next summer.