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Old Posted Mar 3, 2016, 10:26 PM
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Hey All, this project seems to have brought all of the long time lurkers out of the woodwork (including myself). Happy to be a member of the forum and insanely amped about this proposal.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2016, 12:17 AM
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The tallest looks to be 2.25-2.5x the size of Evo.

http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/...3/IMG_0151.jpg
Yeah, it's difficult to tell, because this in this rendering it looks 2.5 to 2.75 times the size of Evo:
http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...g?format=1500w

Evo is 430 feet tall. At 2.25 times the size, that's 967 feet tall. At 2.5 times the height, that's 1,075 feet tall. At 2.75 times the height, that's 1,182 feet tall.

Therefore I just guessed a range between 900 and 1200 feet for this tower haha. There probably is no exact height yet.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2016, 12:33 AM
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Philly angles are weird, the Comcast Center gets dwarfed behind 1LP when looking north. I'm going to stay positive and go with that it looks 1200 feet when viewed looking to da west. CITC is going to look like the Empire State building west looking east.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2016, 12:53 AM
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If this gets built to fruition, than Philly may have a skyline to easily compete with Chicago as the US's second best skyline. Also didn't it say something about ShOP designing it? This could be great!!
Let's not go crazy bud, by the time this project would get completed Chicago will have 10+ Supertalls, and it's hard to beat the lake view of the skyline
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Philly angles are weird, the Comcast Center gets dwarfed behind 1LP when looking north. I'm going to stay positive and go with that it looks 1200 feet when viewed looking to da west. CITC is going to look like the Empire State building west looking east.
When looking to the west it will be blocked by Comcast Center.
I don't like the tallest tower but the rest will go great with the skyline
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2016, 1:06 AM
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Let's not go crazy bud, by the time this project would get completed Chicago will have 10+ Supertalls, and it's hard to beat the lake view of the skyline
Let's not start a City V. City war. Everyone knows Chicago has a much larger skyline.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2016, 1:21 AM
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Tower construction timeline?

Not sure why they're saying the three towers to the south of Market will be the last to be built. Also not sure why this needs to take 20+ years. If it were me planning this site, I would plan it as such:

2016-2017: Park and Bulletin construction

2017-2019: 31st & JFK Office/ground floor retail tower construction - 375 FT

2018-2020: 30th and Chestnut - ground floor retail, 6 floors of office space, relocate all labs at 3101 Market to here. Topped with a luxury apartment tower - 520 feet

2020-2023: 3100 block of JFK - simultaneous construction of tallest tower and second tower as well as "grove" green space in between. Tallest tower a mix of office space, hotel space, and luxury apartments with ground floor retail - between 1,075 feet and 1,187 feet. Second tower, all office space with ground floor retail - 380 feet.

2022-2024: 3100 block of JFK tallest tower - mix of office, hotel and luxury apartments with ground floor retail - 705 feet

2024-2026: 3100 block of JFK smaller tower - luxury apartments with ground floor retail - 420 feet

2026-2028: 31st and Market tower - mixed of office and luxury apartments with ground floor retail - 370 feet

2028-2030: 30th and Market tower - office space with ground floor retail - 405 feet

14 years and done!
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The proposal is very impressive indeed, and the supertall, while not really as breathtaking and astonishing, IMHO, is a lot better looking and more original than the CITC. I actually thought this was actually for the Powelton Air Rights over the rail yard, but this project seems extend from Walnut to JFK Blvd.

It's still a good looking proposal, and hopefully the proposal will evolve into a better looking supertall tower and hopefully a new intercity bus station nearby 30th St Station, since we're talking about a transportation hub as well as an office and residential district!!!
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Alright, so because I have nothing to do tonight, I measured and guesstimated the height of each tower based off the height of Evo which is 430 feet tall. Also guesstimated the floor count of each tower based on Evo and FMC towers:

1,095 FT - 70 FLOORS - Tallest Tower
670 FT - 45 FLOORS - 3100 block JFK tall tower
515 FT - 42 FLOORS - 30th and Chestnut
435 FT - 36 FLOORS - 3100 block JFK short tower
425 FT - 30 FLOORS - 30th and Market
385 FT - 28 FLOORS - 3100 block Market tower
380 FT - 28 FLOORS - 31st and JFK tower
375 FT - 31 FLOORS - 31st and Market tower

All in all, looks like this could be the second tallest in the city

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Very nice!


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New York's SHoP Architects will develop the project's streetscape and architectural standards

I knew SHoP had a hand in it the minute I saw the renderings. That crown also reminds me of the planned 45 Broad St in New York (not SHoP), which would be around the same height.


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Old Posted Mar 4, 2016, 2:43 AM
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^^Really cool! I really like these designs. It reminds of a mythical castle/tower... something straight out of a fantasy movie.
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Architecture and height aside, the plan seems very smart and pro-Philadelphia on the part of Drexel. However this "master plan" truly unfolds I think it's a plus for the region.
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Are there any current skyscrapers right now with this type of facade? Or is this facade-type just on proposals at this moment?
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Are there any current skyscrapers right now with this type of facade? Or is this facade-type just on proposals at this moment?
terracotta facade... it typically isn't that glossy. This is the tallest example i can think of.


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Old Posted Mar 4, 2016, 5:03 AM
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The proposed tallest reminds of One PPG Place in Pittsburg.

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I vote for Phillycon Valley: pronouncing it as Phila-con. It sounds better.
That just sounds like Richmond Valentine is trying to say Silicone Valley:
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Imho there's much more to a great skyline than height. Even if these designs get downsized, such development in the area is absolutely amazing. There's no excuse for those awful parking lots. All they do is make UCity feel distant from CC. Cant wait for the back half of One Drexel Plaza to be demolished with some legitimate development in its place.
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Imho there's much more to a great skyline than height. Even if these designs get downsized, such development in the area is absolutely amazing. There's no excuse for those awful parking lots. All they do is make UCity feel distant from CC. Cant wait for the back half of One Drexel Plaza to be demolished with some legitimate development in its place.
Totally agree.
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I vote for Phillycon Valley: pronouncing it as Phila-con. It sounds better.
That name has been used for over a decade. "Silicon Valley Forge" is another common one.

http://articles.philly.com/2000-10-3...nology-council
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This plan is awesome. I love the design and just about everything about this. I hope an updated transportation plan comes along as part of the package. 30th street station being right near by is definitely a plus, but this project could be a great excuse to rethink things like the 30th street subway connection to 30th street station, bus routing through the area, and (pie in the sky I know) extending PATCO across the schuylkill.
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