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Old Posted Jun 22, 2018, 8:47 PM
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Is there an expectation of a tower to the north? I can't imagine not wanting windows.
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Maybe fire code related?
This. The building goes right up to the lot line, thus no windows are allowed unless they get an easement/air rights from the property to the north, IIRC.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2018, 4:59 PM
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[QUOTE=trvlr70;8230097]Is there an expectation of a tower to the north? I can't imagine not wanting windows.

I thought there was a rendering floating around like 5-7 years ago but could be mistaken with somthing else. Are any of those buildings in that gap protected or can they all be demo'd?
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 4:50 PM
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Projects are starting to appear on City Clerk. Here's one planned for 1367-1377 W Fulton Market. Residential was originally planned, but now they're going with commercial and office use. This thing is going to be massive while taking the Green Line

1367-1377 W Fulton Market | 203 ft | 13 stories | 315,333 sqft | 116 parking

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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 6:06 PM
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Pretty sure you're misreading that drawing. It's 203 feet tall, since the height starts at 100 for some odd reason. 13 floors and 300 feet just makes zero sense
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 6:41 PM
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Pretty sure you're misreading that drawing. It's 203 feet tall, since the height starts at 100 for some odd reason. 13 floors and 300 feet just makes zero sense
Ah, good catch! The PD stated 303' multiple times, so I took it as is. I will edit the height in the description
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 7:59 PM
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Ah, good catch! The PD stated 303' multiple times, so I took it as is. I will edit the height in the description
Yeah, wondering why they drew it that way!
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 8:14 PM
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Yeah, wondering why they drew it that way!
They have snuck in a 100' parking podium, not shown. ;-)
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 11:12 PM
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Doesn't look like anything of too much value will be lost here... appears to be an existing parking lot with a nondescript 2 story building located a bit off of the corner.

This is a really big lot though... is the footprint of this building going all the way to the McDonald's property on Lake/Ogden? Massive building if so.
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 11:22 PM
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This is a really big lot though... is the footprint of this building going all the way to the McDonald's property on Lake/Ogden? Massive building if so.
The parcel stops short of McDonald's, unfortunately.
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2018, 11:26 PM
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The Union Station addition will take some getting used to...





Union Station remake unveiled
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By Greg Hinz

Imagine a light-filled glass box placed on top of a classic structure of stone and concrete.

In essence, that's the proposal a Chicago development group is laying out for the first phase of the redevelopment of Union Station, the city's historic, underused and overly crowded central train terminal.

In a presentation to local Ald. Brendan Reilly, 42nd, and community residents, Chicago developer John O'Donnell and partners are proposing to to renovate the station's mostly unused headhouse building and crown it with a new seven-story structure. Like what's underneath, the new area would have a glass skylight and an open light court above, allowing daylight to stream into the station's existing Great Hall below. The appearance, as depicted in an artist's rendition, takes some getting used to, but original plans back in the World War I era by Daniel Burnham and other designers called for up to a 20-story building.

The current headhouse and new structure combined would comprise 1.1 million square feet of space that would be used for a 330-room hotel and, on the higher floors, 404 residential units.

Current designs also call for redevelopment of much of the station's now vacant retail space along Van Buren, Clinton and Jackson Streets.

A much larger, 1.5 million-square-foot office tower is envisioned later on the site of a parking garage that would be demolished. But those plans would have to come back later for separate city planning and zoning approval.
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Ugh, that addition looks like something that's been transplanted from out of the 70's.

And only 7 stories? Why even bother?
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Seems rushed...
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seriously, how F'ing hard is it to just match the original design and use similar limestone if all you want to do is add a few floors. no one would complain. every proposal for this building is always such a hack job. its beyond frustrating. theres a time and place to be contextual...this would certainly be one.
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I think the first version looked better, and that's not saying much. Uninspired Garbage
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2018, 12:17 AM
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if this is anything like the last time, the economy will tank right before this has a chance to get off the ground, and that may be the only thing that saves us at the 11th hour once again
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Ogilve to Lake. River walk to Michigan. Water Taxi back to Sears. Skydeck. Sears to Buckingham. Then to Maggie Daley. (Which let me tell you, for one parent and a fast kid is a child abduction nightmare). Grant to LSE. Back to Michigan and the water taxi. Ogilve and home. All with a 4 year old, stroller, backpack, sunscreen, snacks, bathroom breaks and camera.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2018, 1:02 AM
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seriously, how F'ing hard is it to just match the original design and use similar limestone if all you want to do is add a few floors. no one would complain. every proposal for this building is always such a hack job. its beyond frustrating. theres a time and place to be contextual...this would certainly be one.
I would very much be a proponent of the original tower design by Graham Anderson Probst & White. Using quality materials, I think it would look fantastic.
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Ogilve to Lake. River walk to Michigan. Water Taxi back to Sears. Skydeck. Sears to Buckingham. Then to Maggie Daley. (Which let me tell you, for one parent and a fast kid is a child abduction nightmare). Grant to LSE. Back to Michigan and the water taxi. Ogilve and home. All with a 4 year old, stroller, backpack, sunscreen, snacks, bathroom breaks and camera.
Pictures to follow once I recover.
That was an.... interesting... route to take haha. Fortunately, child abductions are exceedingly rare, and especially unlikely by strangers. Sounds like you had a good day though! Looking forward to the photos.


As for the redesign at Union Station. I think I'd be more likely to step in front of a train than onto one if I went there after seeing that abomination of an addition.
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I would very much be a proponent of the original tower design by Graham Anderson Probst & White. Using quality materials, I think it would look fantastic.
exactly. blueprints for a respectful addition already exist, and the original architects were kind enough to leave them behind. just use them! how much simpler can it get. what architect can honestly look at this proposal and honestly feel they are enhancing this landmark structure? just for once, would it hurt to come out and say "this is a historical design and we dont want to fuck it up so we're going to seamlessly expand it using identical materials and design cues"? but then that would require an ounce of humbleness....

as bad as a tasteless bungalow pop top



just. stop.

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