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Old Posted May 29, 2017, 11:48 PM
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I had no idea the building could change color like that.
Holy crap, this building just jumped from a 9/10 to a 9.5/10 on my list.
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Do we know it can change colors? If it does, I'm assuming it'll be super dull lights like the dull ones that L1&2 have. Even if it doesn't, I'd expect the lantern to be equal to CC in terms of brightness. Hopeful the east side looks OK.
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Do we know it can change colors? If it does, I'm assuming it'll be super dull lights like the dull ones that L1&2 have. Even if it doesn't, I'd expect the lantern to be equal to CC in terms of brightness. Hopeful the east side looks OK.
If FMC and Mellon prove anything, color changing LED lights don't have to be dull. They just have to be rated to be bright enough to be seen from great distances which isn't the case at Liberty.
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Old Posted May 30, 2017, 9:19 PM
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From my new neighborhood:

The burbs? Complete with lawns and white picket fences:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9809...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Kidding. Mostly.
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https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9809...8i6656!6m1!1e1

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You don't have to kid, it is offensive.
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Old Posted May 30, 2017, 10:01 PM
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The burbs? Complete with lawns and white picket fences:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9809...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Kidding. Mostly.
Yeah, as a Temple student who takes the time to traverse extensively off campus, North Philly's suburban-esque nature in certain areas is quite unfortunate.
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Old Posted May 30, 2017, 10:58 PM
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You don't have to kid, it is offensive.
Although it is bad urban planning and bad use of space, I guess I don't have much an issue with some areas of the city being built like that with private development dollars. Especially areas outside core center city that are not as dense. Was just commenting.
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I'm missing something, how is it offensive?
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I'm missing something, how is it offensive?
the same way a chef might poorly execute a recipe, serve raw food, and poison someone eating the food....bad urban design recipe, bad execution. and it looks terrible and clearly isn't aging well
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Yeah, as a Temple student who takes the time to traverse extensively off campus, North Philly's suburban-esque nature in certain areas is quite unfortunate.
I'm a Temple student (if you can't tell by the neighborhood lol) who does the same thing and feels the exact same way. I now live on 19th and Berks, and I don't even like walking along 19th Street due to not feeling like I'm in the city. This kind of land use is indicative of how those in power felt about Philly in the 90s and early 2000s. They thought that land in certain areas of North and West Philly (take, for instance, the land surrounding the 46th and 40th Street stops) never be developed with the prevailing market forces of the time. That short-sightedness is why Poplar will remain underdeveloped for a while, and why we need to scrutinize every detail of a new PHA plan (if that development is indeed PHA housing). Fortunately, the Sharswood development embraces principles of Mew Urbanism.

Here is one thing I will never get about those decisions, however: why build suburban-style housing when there is a waiting list of people who need PHA housing? Also, why build these when rehabbing the sturdier brick rowhomes would have costed WAY less per square foot?
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I'm a Temple student (if you can't tell by the neighborhood lol) who does the same thing and feels the exact same way. I now live on 19th and Berks, and I don't even like walking along 19th Street due to not feeling like I'm in the city. This kind of land use is indicative of how those in power felt about Philly in the 90s and early 2000s. They thought that land in certain areas of North and West Philly (take, for instance, the land surrounding the 46th and 40th Street stops) never be developed with the prevailing market forces of the time. That short-sightedness is why Poplar will remain underdeveloped for a while, and why we need to scrutinize every detail of a new PHA plan (if that development is indeed PHA housing). Fortunately, the Sharswood development embraces principles of Mew Urbanism.

Here is one thing I will never get about those decisions, however: why build suburban-style housing when there is a waiting list of people who need PHA housing? Also, why build these when rehabbing the sturdier brick rowhomes would have costed WAY less per square foot?
Very well said. Agree completely.
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Old Posted Jun 1, 2017, 1:55 PM
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I'm a Temple student (if you can't tell by the neighborhood lol) who does the same thing and feels the exact same way. I now live on 19th and Berks, and I don't even like walking along 19th Street due to not feeling like I'm in the city. This kind of land use is indicative of how those in power felt about Philly in the 90s and early 2000s. They thought that land in certain areas of North and West Philly (take, for instance, the land surrounding the 46th and 40th Street stops) never be developed with the prevailing market forces of the time. That short-sightedness is why Poplar will remain underdeveloped for a while, and why we need to scrutinize every detail of a new PHA plan (if that development is indeed PHA housing). Fortunately, the Sharswood development embraces principles of Mew Urbanism.

Here is one thing I will never get about those decisions, however: why build suburban-style housing when there is a waiting list of people who need PHA housing? Also, why build these when rehabbing the sturdier brick rowhomes would have costed WAY less per square foot?
there are a host of reasons. You are drastically oversimplifying several aspects of what happened. Also, the waiting list you speak of is for rental housing and/or vouchers- not the same as much of the for sale housing that was built in North Philly (and elsewhere) during 90s and 2000s. Rehabbing old homes is slow and expensive. any contractor will tell you it's faster and more efficient to build new than it is to retrofit- especially when you are trying to retrofit modern features into old structure. Saying it's "cheaper" as blanket statement is not accurate.
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there are a host of reasons. You are drastically oversimplifying several aspects of what happened. Also, the waiting list you speak of is for rental housing and/or vouchers- not the same as much of the for sale housing that was built in North Philly (and elsewhere) during 90s and 2000s. Rehabbing old homes is slow and expensive. any contractor will tell you it's faster and more efficient to build new than it is to retrofit- especially when you are trying to retrofit modern features into old structure. Saying it's "cheaper" as blanket statement is not accurate.
Yes, you can't make a blanket statement like that. But in all likelihood, in this circumstance, the City could have rehabbed existing housing stock in the area for less money than the PHA Sharswood plan will cost. It's also not a binary choice. In building new, they didn't need to build the WAY that they are.

I don't know whether the shots in the Comcast picture are also public or Section 8 housing, though. Since this thread IS about Comcast, I will say it's looking great! Nice, continued progress on the cooling towers and really starting to shine in the sky. You can really start to see what it will look like too with the recent renders in this thread.
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there are a host of reasons. You are drastically oversimplifying several aspects of what happened. Also, the waiting list you speak of is for rental housing and/or vouchers- not the same as much of the for sale housing that was built in North Philly (and elsewhere) during 90s and 2000s. Rehabbing old homes is slow and expensive. any contractor will tell you it's faster and more efficient to build new than it is to retrofit- especially when you are trying to retrofit modern features into old structure. Saying it's "cheaper" as blanket statement is not accurate.
No, there is no justification for it whatsoever.
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the same way a chef might poorly execute a recipe, serve raw food, and poison someone eating the food....bad urban design recipe, bad execution. and it looks terrible and clearly isn't aging well
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