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I just assumed he was trying to underline this irony.
No, I was definitely trying to be rude.

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Old Posted May 2, 2010, 6:20 PM
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the enviroment here in shanghai, is rather shitty...

dirty river, bad management, shit design, but happy ppl, walking by, all over the places...afterall, living conditions r much better than before...

on the other hand, can't compare this with the world's most livable city,
but in terms of atmosphere, van isn't the happiest place on earth...
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Calgary....livable? HA!
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Old Posted May 2, 2010, 7:03 PM
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I love this survey. It always seems to bring out the best in us.
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Where is the link to the list in it's entirety?
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Old Posted May 2, 2010, 7:37 PM
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there was another survey last week that says Ottawa is the most liveable city in Canada

Ottawa the best place to live in Canada, magazine decides
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Well, I don't make a ton of money but I still somehow still survive. I find there's some things here are somewhat 'normal' costing, like groceries, through all the produce stands in the city. My hydro is also dirt cheap compared to what I was paying in Alberta, plus having rent control is good for someone like myself. But buying a place where I live now, forget about it! That's why I rent. And I live in walking distance to my job so that right there saves me a lot per month on not having to buy a bus pass.
I was looking in to apartments in the West End and I would be paying more for the same size from what I have now in Grandview. But it's all perspective and if you consider worth it, I guess. Some people want a cheap house out in Mission but I would rather pay more to live close to the city centre.
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yup - most financial people say real estate is not a good investment or sure thing

renters can live where they want, don't have the household expenses and can invest money into things and retire just as well as home owners in the long run - BC is lucky that we have good rental laws and is pretty stable
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there was another survey last week that says Ottawa is the most liveable city in Canada

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Golly. Look at all the bashing of the two Manitoba cities on this list. How typically Canadian
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Old Posted May 2, 2010, 9:26 PM
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yup - most financial people say real estate is not a good investment or sure thing

renters can live where they want, don't have the household expenses and can invest money into things and retire just as well as home owners in the long run - BC is lucky that we have good rental laws and is pretty stable
Renting wouldn't have worked out very well with me. If I rented, I'd be pissing 700 to 800 dollars down the drain every month over the last 12 years or so. The amount I pay towards my mortgage is about $650 per month, thanks to a low interest rate, plus I have to pay a 170 dollar maintenance fee. I've payed off most of the mortgage, and will hopefully be mortgage free this summer. My place has more than doubled in value. I win, but I was very lucky to have bought in when I did.

Now, I have the option to rent out the place and pick up something new. It just keeps getting better.
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there was another survey last week that says Ottawa is the most liveable city in Canada

Ottawa the best place to live in Canada, magazine decides
That list makes no sense to me - or maybe I'm too much of a city dweller. But nothing on that lists really makes me think, ooh, exciting life full of activities. I don't care what list is generated but if they say cultural activities and institutions are a criterion and Toronto and Montreal aren't on it (nevermind Vancouver even), how can that lists be relevant at all?
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So how did last week's snowfall work out for ya?
I currently live in Toronto.
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yup - most financial people say real estate is not a good investment or sure thing

renters can live where they want, don't have the household expenses and can invest money into things and retire just as well as home owners in the long run - BC is lucky that we have good rental laws and is pretty stable
There was a great article on HBR online essentially discussing the value of living where you want. Research found that for each 1hr of extra commute time, one's salary would have to be 40% higher to be equivalently happy. Of course, this will vary by person, but it does make a valid point. It also goes on to discuss how we over value the benefits of living in suburbia, like that extra bedroom that is used for 5 days out a 365 day year.
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So how did last week's snowfall work out for ya?
You say that like it was a bad thing?!
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I currently live in Toronto.
It's a sign of the times that someone can duck and cover from Calgary bashing comments by saying that they are from Toronto.
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Why all the Calgary-bashing in the first place? It's got more head offices and a more dynamic economy than Vancouver, even if it doesn't have the ocean, the mountains, etc etc etc.
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No, I was definitely trying to be rude.

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The people on the Rolex forum miss you.
Everyone seems to have left. It's a land I barely know.
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There was a great article on HBR online essentially discussing the value of living where you want. Research found that for each 1hr of extra commute time, one's salary would have to be 40% higher to be equivalently happy. Of course, this will vary by person, but it does make a valid point. It also goes on to discuss how we over value the benefits of living in suburbia, like that extra bedroom that is used for 5 days out a 365 day year.
its all what you want to end up with and what you value in your lifestyle - you can invest in your house in invest in other things and end up in the same place when you retire
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Vancouver's suburbs are also arguably among the worst in the country...say what you will about Toronto but I'd rather live anywhere in the GTA over Surrey, Langley, Maple Ridge, etc...Vancouver may have a high quality of life but it drops off very quickly the further you get from Boundary Road.
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