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Old Posted Jan 13, 2014, 11:54 PM
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i love b'ham, but i want to point out a perfect example of metro identity, cmsa, city proper. for b'ham, the census bureau identified cullman as part of the metro, not the combined statistical area. cullman is an hour away, by interstate. there is no apparent rhyme or reason as to why they classified the area as metro. perhaps, i could see the combined stat designation, but metro is a bit out there. nevertheless, there are other cities that are even more out of whack. if the bureau were consistent, they would have classified cullman as a metro, as they do w/ some of the other cities. the entire system is messed up, and it is certainly not reliable.
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i love b'ham, but i want to point out a perfect example of metro identity, cmsa, city proper. for b'ham, the census bureau identified cullman as part of the metro, not the combined statistical area. cullman is an hour away, by interstate. there is no apparent rhyme or reason as to why they classified the area as metro. perhaps, i could see the combined stat designation, but metro is a bit out there. nevertheless, there are other cities that are even more out of whack. if the bureau were consistent, they would have classified cullman as a metro, as they do w/ some of the other cities. the entire system is messed up, and it is certainly not reliable.
Cullman is part of the CSA not the MSA... An Cullman is actually more like 30-40 min north. Decatur is exactly an hour north on 65.

EDIT: Also, Cullman County is already counted at a MicroSA.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2014, 8:54 AM
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Atlanta
Houston
Miami
Dallas
Charlotte
Birmingham
Greenville
Savannah
Nashville
New Orleans


Best cities overall not population or largest just sayin
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^ this is why threads like these go astray. This homer puts his city first then neglects the other part of the thread title that says 'Southeast" only yet includes Dallas and Houston while neglecting the largest city in the Southeast which would be Jacksonville.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2014, 8:31 PM
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this is why threads like these go astray. This homer puts his city first then neglects the other part of the thread title that says 'Southeast" only yet includes Dallas and Houston while neglecting the largest city in the Southeast which would be Jacksonville.
Jacksonville is not even the largest city in FL, unless oh wait, could mean irrelevant city population. I thought I was on skyscraperpage, not city data forum....
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Jacksonville is not even the largest city in FL, unless oh wait, could mean irrelevant city population. I thought I was on skyscraperpage, not city data forum....
Exactly. Jacksonville is only the 4th largest Metro area of Florida, at more than a million in population behind Orlando.

The consolidated City/County of Jacksonville & Duval County means squat in the grand scheme of things.
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That's probably because I used CSA population.
And that's worse because not all of those cities even have CSA's.
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the memphis proper number fails to show the mandated court ruling which includes 33702+ the 9,000+ over the last three years for a total of of <> shelby co. 1,017,000, memphis proper, 718,684>, csa 1.4+ million, greater memphis now over 2.4 million. documented gov statistics estimates more than 150,00 workers drive into the city each day. these people are pulled from la, ms, mo, ky, and ark.

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Going by economic output here are the updated numbers for calender year 2013. http://bea.gov/newsreleases/regional..._metro0914.pdf

Only using cities in the following states...

KY, VA, NC, SC, TN, GA, FL, AL, MS, LA, and AR. What most people would consider to be the South or Southeast. I include DC since a large portion of the GMP is derived in northern VA. I exclude Cincinnati since only a small fraction of the GMP is generated in KY. The vast majority is in OH.

Metro Area.................Real Gross Metropolitan Product (Real GMP)

LARGE METRO >= 100 billion GMP

Washington, DC..........................$437,085,000,000
Atlanta, GA................................$288,175,000,000
Miami, FL...................................$263,115,000,000
Charlotte, NC.............................$130,318,000,000
Tampa, FL.................................$115,263,000,000
Orlando, FL................................$103,992,000,000
Raleigh-Durham, NC...................$102,288,000,000 (this is combined GMP)

All of these metro areas rank in the top 30 in terms of GMP nationally. These metros are important to the global economy, and are extremely important to the national and regional economy.

MEDIUM METRO < 100 billion and >= 50 billion GMP

Nashville, TN.............................$95,124,000,000
Norfolk, VA................................$83,162,000,000
New Orleans, LA.........................$70,665,000,000
Richmond, VA............................$64,155,000,000
Memphis, TN.............................$63,081,000,000
Greensboro-Winston-Salem, NC...$60,912,000,000 (this is combined GMP)
Louisville, KY.............................$60,649,000,000
Jacksonville, FL..........................$58,229,000,000
Birmingham, AL.........................$55,913,000,000

All of these metro areas rank in the top 50 in terms of GMP nationally. These metro areas are marginally important to the global economy, very important to the national economy, and extremely important to the regional economy.

SMALL METRO < 50 billion and >= 25 billion GMP

Baton Rouge, LA........................$45,769,000,000
Greenville-Spartanburg, SC.........$45,034,000,000 (this is combined GMP)
Little Rock, AR...........................$38,625,000,000
Knoxville, TN.............................$34,346,000,000
Columbia, SC.............................$33,199,000,000
Charleston, SC...........................$30,667,000,000
Jackson, MS..............................$26,225,000,000
Lafayette, LA.............................$25,386,000,000

These cities are marginally important to the national economy, important to the regional economy, and very important to the local and or state economy.

OTHER METROS < 25 billion and >= 10 billion GMP

Lexington, KY............................$24,851,000,000
Sarasota, FL..............................$24,358,000,000
Fayetteville, AR.........................$22,593,000,000
Huntsville, AL............................$21,645,000,000
Chattanooga, TN........................$20,945,000,000
Shreveport, LA..........................$20,887,000,000
Fort Myers, FL...........................$20,162,000,000
Augusta, GA.............................$19,497,000,000
Lakeland, FL.............................$17,454,000,000
Melbourne, FL...........................$17,398,000,000
Mobile, AL................................$17,085,000,000
Fayetteville, NC.........................$16,182,000,000
Kingsport-Johnson City, TN.........$15,957,000,000 (this is combined GMP)
Montgomery, AL........................$15,489,000,000
Asheville, NC.............................$14,787,000,000
Gulfport-Biloxi, MS.....................$14,768,000,000
Myrtle Beach, SC.......................$14,221,000,000
Pensacola, FL............................$14,208,000,000
Savannah, GA...........................$13,769,000,000
Naples, FL................................$13,326,000,000
Daytona Beach, FL.....................$13,085,000,000
Roanoke, VA.............................$13,051,000,000
Tallahassee, FL.........................$12,893,000,000
Columbus, GA...........................$12,108,000,000
Lake Charles, LA.......................$11,884,000,000
Houma-Thibodaux, LA...............$11,840,000,000
Hickory, NC..............................$11,689,000,000
Wilmington, NC........................$11,501,000,000
Destin, FL................................$11,462,000,000
Port St. Lucie, FL......................$11,046,000,000
Charlottesville, VA....................$10,540,000,000
Gainesville, FL..........................$10,431,000,000

These cities are marginally important to the regional economy, and important to the local and or state economy.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2014, 11:21 PM
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^ Cool list. If you're going to include Raleigh/Durham and Greenville/Spartanburg, you should include Greensboro/Winston-Salem as one metro. That would put them in the medium size metro.
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Thanks for catching that Nomad9. I will update the list.
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The top 20 cities in the USA for 2013
3 cities in the southeast made the list

Jacksonville
Charlotte
Memphis

http://www.biggestuscities.com/top-20
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2014, 11:22 PM
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These cities are marginally important to the national economy, important to the regional economy, and very important to the local and or state economy.

OTHER METROS < 25 billion and >= 10 billion GMP
Fayetteville, AR.........................$22,593,000,000
Ok, let me touch on this for a moment.

You can't say Fayetteville. It's NWA. It consists of 4 main cities. Fayetteville is the university town and incubator hub for the tech start ups that been featured in some national pubs recently

Springdale is Protein. Home to Tyson Foods which is the process of it's Hillshire acquisition. America's largest meat producer.

There's Rogers and we'll give them JB Hunt even though the HQ is in one of the small towns that fill the voids of the big 4 called Lowell. It's the nation's largest public trucking company and pioneered the piggyback of trailers on rail.

and there's Bentonville, home to some retailer.

So "marginally" important to the national economy is subjective.

The area is growing fast and the MSA has surpassed 500,000 and the muni air field will surpass 600,000 enplanements this year without a low cost carrier other than some Allegiant service.


Now, is NWA the Southeast or the Midwest? It's more "Southern" than Miami or Tampa so there's that

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This topic is still alive? Yikes, long time running. Usually any thread with a hint of city vs city is shut down immediately, but it appears people here have kept it fairly cordial.

When it comes to ranking economies, populations, or any of this stuff it really is all about where you draw the lines and what you consider to be urbanized.

I'm highly, highly biased in favor of 'urban' character and mostly discount suburbia altogether. When you take that into account, cities like New Orleans and Memphis shoot up the list and carry more weight than their population would suggest. Newer, more economically growing cities like Raleigh don't seem nearly as developed in this regard even though their metro wide stats look impressive. And that's not a slight on Raleigh, its clearly a growth leader and has a very educated population.

Impressive cities are relative to what your interests are. Also, being able to afford and live in the city is another factor. I can't make a list, but my list would be oriented around affordability and urbanity first. There's nothing more sad than living in a city you can't afford to be in, and must own a home miles out in suburbia to survive.

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2014 US Census July 01,2014

1-Jacksonville - 853.382
2-Charlotte - 809,958

3-Memphis - 658,861
4-Nashville - 644,014
5-Louisville - 612,780

6-Atlanta - 456,002
7-Virginia Beach - 450,980
8-Raleigh - 439,896
9-Miami - 430,332

10-New Orleans - 384,320
11-Tampa - 358,699
12-Lexington - 310,797

13-Orlando -262,372
14- Norfolk - 245,428
15- Richmond - 217,853
16- Birmingham - 212,247

http://www.census.gov/popest/data/ci...EST2014-3.html

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^ You missed two Florida cities:

14- St. Petersburg - 253,693
16- Hialeah - 235,563
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also left out (insert) 17. Baton Rouge 228,895
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Chesapeake - 233,371
Winston-Salem - 239,269
Durham - 251,893
Greensboro - 282,586
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