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View Poll Results: Votre choix pour maire de Montréal | Your choice for mayor of Montreal
Richard Bergeron 18 56.25%
Denis Coderre 6 18.75%
Marcel Côté 3 9.38%
Mélanie Joly 4 12.50%
Autre / Other 0 0%
Aucune / None 1 3.13%
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If I decide to take part in the next useless election again, my vote will be for Melanie Joly. She won't win. She's just looking for a career boost or to prove a point to some person, but she looks like decent gal.

She's kinda cute too

She's got my vote!
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Le tramway roule pour Bergeron



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C'est ce qu'on appelle en politique «définir l'agenda». L'actualité au Québec n'a pas laissé beaucoup d'espace cette semaine aux candidats à la mairie de Montréal, dont aucune promesse n'a réellement retenu l'attention.

À l'exception du tramway cher au chef de Projet Montréal, Richard Bergeron.

Il avait promis il y a une semaine que les Montréalais en verraient les premières voitures en 2017, il a renchéri mercredi en maintenant son engagement contre vents et marées. Même si «aucun ingénieur, aucun fabricant, aucun décideur de quelque niveau que ce soit» ne lui ont confirmé que la chose était possible, il entend implanter un réseau de 10 à 15 km en quatre ans.

Quitte à emprunter des voitures à d'autres villes «comme Montpellier, Bordeaux et Jérusalem», a-t-il prévenu. Ses adversaires ont dû embarquer sur son terrain et n'ont pas manqué de tirer à boulets rouges sur cette promesse. La chef de Vision Montréal et codirectrice de Coalition Montréal, Louise Harel, a qualifié l'idée d'emprunter des voitures d'«absurde et invraisemblable».

Hier, M. Bergeron a finalement reconnu que cette idée était "saugrenue".

Le chef de Coalition Montréal, Marcel Côté, a rappelé qu'on n'était plus à l'époque des grands projets à la Jean Drapeau. «Faire croire à la population que ce qu'on a fait en 1960, on pourrait le faire aujourd'hui, bonne chance! Essayez d'aller jouer dans le fleuve avec un tracteur.»

Quant à Denis Coderre, sa réplique a été lapidaire. «Le tramway, on oublie ça [...]. L'argent ne pousse pas dans les arbres.»

Qu'un candidat devienne la cible privilégiée de ses adversaires n'a rien pour déplaire à une organisation politique. Dans l'entourage de M. Bergeron, en tout cas, on cachait mal cette semaine la satisfaction d'avoir imposé le sujet de l'heure.

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The Tramway is cool, but useless. I see it as a toy that a successful, stable city allows to get itself. We are not there yet.


How disappointing, an airport-downtown link, perhaps the biggest transport priority, is completely forgotten. An Expo and an Olympics, and still no rail connection. What an embarrassment.
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Quant à Denis Coderre, sa réplique a été lapidaire. «Le tramway, on oublie ça [...]. L'argent ne pousse pas dans les arbres.»
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How disappointing, an airport-downtown link, perhaps the biggest transport priority, is completely forgotten. An Expo and an Olympics, and still no rail connection. What an embarrassment.
Je pense que c'est avec Projet Montréal que ça aurait le plus de chance de se faire. Justement, en 2009, ça faisait partie de leur programme (voir cette image). Ce qu'on voit sur l'image et qui est nommé « AÉROTRAMTL », c'est le Skytrain de Vancouver.
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INFOGRAPHIC: Union Montreal: Who went where?
A look at where the elected members of the former Union Montreal municipal party went after it was disbanded
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Yes, it’s a locked Journal story, but it’s the first Léger poll of the campaign and the headline and brief précis are informative. Denis Coderre is ahead with 39% of voting intentions, and a lot of voters have no idea who Marcel Côté is.

Tweets say it’s Coderre 39, Bergeron 23, Côté 17, Joly 16.
I wonder who's voting for coderre en masse like that. I guess he's seen as the default candidate, in the absence of compelling options.
The gap with Bergeron seems so large though, I hope other polls come out and show things are not quite decided yet. This is a bit depressing.
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I am not very surprised that Coderre is ahead, but am shocked at how poorly Bergeron and especially Côté are doing.

It's not really being talked about, but I suspect that Coderre is seen as the most moderate. People know where he stands on those sorts of issues, so voters likely feel relatively comfortable with him at the wheel (especially federalists).

Côté is relatively unknown to non-francophones. The fact that he joined forces with Louise Harel, likely scared a lot of federalist voters into the Coderre camp. The fact that he is seen as a federalist, and perhaps a bit right-wing is scaring off Louise Harel's traditional east-end base. It was probably a bad gamble for both sides of the Coalition.

Bergeron is probably seen as being a bit nuts by a lot of voters, although he seems to be maintaining his base from the last election (inner city people). Bergeron is naturally going to have trouble in more suburban boroughs, which now constitute a good chunk of the city. People in places like Pierrefonds, Anjou and Lachine are attached to their cars.

Joly, again is relatively unknown, although the fact that she is not seen as a kook probably helped her in the west end. However, she seems increasingly like a minor candidate, which is likely causing some people to support someone they actually think can win.
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Just looking through the full polling numbers: http://www.leger360.com/admin/upload...20131071fr.pdf

It appears as though Francophones, Anglophones and Allophones all have roughly the same levels of support for each candidate.

Interesting comparison between the original city of Montreal and the merged cities:
Montreal (pre-2002 boundaries)
Coderre 36
Bergeron 27
Côté 18
Joly 14

Merged cities
Coderre 46
Joly 20
Bergeron 15
Côté 14

If the demerged cities stayed in Montreal, I imagine it would be a real landslide for Coderre. Are we starting to see a bit of an urban-suburban divide like in Toronto?
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Plan B: Anyone but Coderre

By Don Macpherson, The Gazette
October 8, 2013 9:16 AM


Denis Coderre wanted the mayoralty of Montreal only as a consolation prize.

He was tired of being a member of Parliament, and Justin Trudeau was blocking his way to the job he really wanted, the federal Liberal leadership.

So Coderre settled for running for mayor of Quebec’s metropolis.

At a time when everybody in Quebec claims to yearn for a new style of politics, Coderre is a caricature of the old-fashioned pol: glad-handing, backslapping, winking and grinning — everything but the cigar and the homburg hat.

The city’s business establishment, and many in its media, roll their eyes at the thought of Coderre as mayor.

Business leaders found him so lacking in anything but personal ambition that they went looking for an ABC candidate (Anybody But Coderre), and settled on a 71-year-old technocrat unknown to the general public, Marcel Côté.

And Coderre welcomed into his “team” — as “party” is a bad word in this year’s Quebec municipal elections — several refugees from the discredited Union Montreal, whose last two mayors were forced to resign in disgrace.

But after six victories in seven federal elections, Coderre is the most politically experienced of the mayoral candidates, and the best-known.

Plus, he is a man of the people who livetweets updates of Canadiens games.

And apparently, glad-handing, backslapping, grinning, winking and livetweeting “c’est le BUUUT!” is what the people want.

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Original source article: Macpherson: Plan B: Anyone but Coderre
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Bonjour,
J’aimerais pouvoir vous partager une découverte que j’ai fait dernièrement sur le parti Projet-Montréal : Richard Bergeron n’a jamais, mais jamais été élu ni maire, et ni élu conseiller de ville. S’il mentionne qu’il a été conseiller pendant les 8 dernières années, c’est qu’il a tout simplement ‘’tassé’’ du revers de la main, et ceci à chaque élection, un conseiller nouvellement élu pour lui prendre sa place. Monsieur Bergeron ne s’en vante pas trop par exemple car il dit même qu’il est très bon et qu’il connait tous les racoins de l’hôtel de ville de Montréal. Je pense personnellement que Richard Bergeron ne mérite pas d’être où il est, ou d’être ce qu’il a été (conseiller de ville) car il n’a jamais été élu. Pour moi, c’est un imposteur et un profiteur!! Même s’il mentionnerait qu’il en avait le droit d’usurper la place de son conseiller, je trouve cela immoral.
Si vous allez sur ‘’Wikipédia – résultats des élections pour Projet-Montréal’’, vous allez tout découvrir la vérité vous aussi. En résumé, voici ce qui s’est passé :
En novembre 2005, le parti de Projet-Montréal n’avait élu qu’un seul conseiller municipal (Carl Boileau) ‘’Conseiller de ville - district De Lorimier dans l'arrondissement Plateau-Mont-Royal’’, et c’est Richard Bergeron qui a pris sa place. Le 3 novembre 2009, la conseillère Nimâ Machouf avait été élue ‘’ Conseillère de la ville - District électoral de Jeanne-Mance’’. Richard Bergeron a aussi pris sa place, parce que ce monsieur Bergeron n’avait pas été élu ni maire, et ni conseiller.
Une autre chose que je reproche à Richard Bergeron, c’est d’avoir l’idée d’éliminer tous les stationnements de surface du centre-ville. Si cela se fait, cela sera catastrophique pour l’économie montréalaise, à mois d’être absolument certain que chaque stationnement de surface sera remplacé par un stationnement sous-terrain et que cela sera très bien identifié de comment s’y rendre. Pour vous donner un exemple, j’ai déjà travaillé comme ingénieur-conseil au centre-ville, et les clients me disaient souvent : s’il n’y a pas de stationnement au centre-ville, on ne va pas te rencontrer!! Pensez-vous que la clientèle d’affaire va toujours prendre le métro ou le taxi, si en particulier ces gens viennent de la rive-sud ou rive Nord…
Une autre idée farfelue de Richard Bergeron est de ramener les tramways à Montréal. Pourquoi vouloir revenir 40 ans en arrière alors qu’on s’en était débarrassé. Les rails dans les rues vont détruire le peu de rues carrossables qu’il nous reste. Imaginez-vous des rails parmi les nombreux nids de poule!!! Non merci, on ne dépensera pas une maudite cenne noire là-dessus!!

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Francois Charbonneau sera heureux d'apprendre que les chances de Bergeron semblent une fois de plus compromises, alors que Union Montreal 2.0 renforce son avance.

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Le sondage réalisé auprès de 1001 internautes montréalais accorde 41 % des intentions de vote à Denis Coderre alors que Mélanie Joly recueille 24 % des appuis contre 21 % pour le chef de Projet Montréal, Richard Bergeron, et un maigre 11 % pour le chef de Coalition Montréal, Marcel Côté.
http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/mo...-deuxieme-rang

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Boring. Election.

Nothing has, and nothing will change.

Wait I can think of one change, our new mayor is a fat piece of shit. The last one wasn't fat.
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I would blame the result on the municipal mergers. Coderre is a suburbanite who probably would not have won if it weren't for the outer boroughs.

What seems clear to me is that Projet is probably never going to win the mayoralty. They seemed to be at their peak level of support. In order to actually have a chance of winning, they will have to put some water in their wine, or some of the former cities will have to demerge. Just imagine if the entire West Island was still part of the city! Coderre would have received his majority for sure!

Having said that, I think Joly could potentially win next election if people are sick of Union Montreal 2.0

Just look at this election map:
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I think Joly will be gone about as quickly as she came, probably moving on to the PLQ. She got exactly what she wanted out of this election - exposure. She has virtually no party behing her, and will yield no influence in council with a meager 4 councillors.
On the other hand Projet has made very notable gains going from 8 to 20 councillors. They're well on their way to shedding this "fringe lefties" image the media has slapped them with. I think Bergeron probably has too much (largely unjustified) stigma, but if the party can find a new leader they may be on their way to winning 2017. Especially since the Charbonneau commission isn't quite over - probably not good news for a good chunk of Team Coderre.
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Boring. Election.

Nothing has, and nothing will change.

Wait I can think of one change, our new mayor is a fat piece of shit. The last one wasn't fat.
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