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[The North One]

It seems like they have no idea what the fuck they actually wanna do, they're even considering a two tower concept, we probably won't get an "official" design until the final hour.

More height is exactly what I didn't want...

[Steely Dan]

here's a larger image of the redesign


source: http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article...nd-gets-taller

[subterranean]

WTF. Eh, might has well go to 1,000 now!

[LMich]

Originally Posted by subterranean

WTF. Eh, might has well go to 1,000 now!

This was might thinking when they first announced this. Might as well take the office space out of the podium and put it into the tower, and make it a supertall.

The base looks more of a mess, since they took the expensive metal paneling off and jumbled up the massing. They also took the torque out of the tower. But, the tower is actually now more detailed than it was. I really like the "creep" of the mullions up the side slowly disappearing as it reaches near the top. I'm also excited to see this has a crown (and an observation deck to boot).

[The North One]

Don't expect this to be the final design, apparently, they have multiple concepts to choose from which will be final in 2018.

[animatedmartian]

Like the tower, but bring back the swoop.

[rlw777]

The overall design is less coherent but the height increase is very welcome.

Side note: Whoever created the rendering put the Calder sculpture from Grand Rapids inside the tall glass room directly below the tower.

[Warrenite84]

Totally agree animatedmartian.

[rlw777]

Nonsense. Dan Gilbert would build something big and relatively flashy here whether the building itself brought him good returns or not. He owns enough of downtown that this development is going to make his portfolio of properties instantaneously more valuable.

[NYguy]

I want a better look at the crown, but I'm glad there's an observation deck. The base is a little busy, but I'm sure SHoP will work it out.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bus...tag/105583144/

Hudson site gets taller tower, higher price tag

Candice Williams
September 13, 2017

A redesign of the J.L. Hudson site project will come with a higher price tag, will feature a taller tower and a market on the street level but could take longer to construction, officials with the project said Wednesday.

Bedrock officials told the Downtown Development Authority during a presentation Wednesday that they still plan to break ground on the $900 million project this December. However, they expect it will take longer to complete the project because of the changes.

...The project was originally scheduled to be completed in December 2020. However, Guziewicz said Bedrock officials will assess during the next six to eight weeks how much additional time they’ll need to accommodate changes to the project.

...The design architect on the project is New York City-based SHoP Architects, the architect of record is Detroit-based Hamilton Anderson and the general contractor is Southfield-based Barton Malow.

Guziewicz said the redesign was costly but declined to give a cost figure. He said Bedrock wanted to make sure they got the project right for Detroit.

[mind field]

Geez this new design is a train wreck. WTF is that on the top? On a side note, I never thought I'd see the day where Detroit would have a tower in the proposals section with an 8 being the first digit of the height figure.

[LMich]

OMG, I think I just realized looking at the rendering that the "crown" is actually a glassed-in overhanging obsesrvation deck with a partial glass floor. That will be a crazy view. I'm not super interested to see this from the south/river view. BTW, some more notes:

- The maximize views, they removed all the residential in the lower 15 floors of the tower in the original design, and they stacked it above floor 15. This is why the building is now so much taller. I imagine they've moved some office space to the now open 15 bottom floors of the tower.

- They took what retail was in the first basement and spread it along the remainder of the ground floor, particularly filling in the Farmer Street frontage which they say was originally kind of a dead space.

- The "podium" is no longer a podium. There is now a 60-foot wide walkway in between the tower in the small tower portion. Because of this seperation of tower and podium, the project is actually around 200,000 square feet smaller in total leasable space.

- The number of residences have gone up to 330, and the amount of office space has been slightly reduced.

- The skydeck will total 90,000 square feet.

EDIT: Seems SHoP left of some little kiddy illustrations with Curbed, but it gives you an idea of a few things:

The new "cut-through" looking towards Woodward from Farmer. It appears the market is in the former podium on the cut-through:



Cut-away of the former podium looking south:

[subterranean]

I hated that they were connected.

[The North One]

Those sketches look so rough, this was clearly put together at the last minute.

They really need to hone these plans. I don't know if I have that much faith in Shop since a lot of their work can look downright awful, it's usually hit or miss for them.

[cityguy]

Has the tower increased in in floors from 54?

[Detroit1995]

Looks like Bedrock is rolling out a whole new website for the project:

http://hudsonssitedetroit.com/

[subterranean]

Originally Posted by Detroit1995

Looks like Bedrock is rolling out a whole new website for the project:

http://hudsonssitedetroit.com/

I saw that today, too. It’s all pretty weird given the big to-do with the rollout of the first version.

[LMich]

Okay, so they still need to update it (still no revised floor count unless you want to try and count them on the diagram, and who knows how accurate that is), but the new revised site has a diagram up of the thing. And, yes, that thing you see in the rendering is indeed an overhanging observation deck with a glass floor.



North building cut-away (larger version)



http://www.hudsonssitedetroit.com/

Excited about the events space.

[subterranean]

The site does say that it will be 800'. I guess previously this was a bit up in the air given the reporting stating "now over 800'" when the press release came out.

[LMich]

I don't think it's been finalized. I imagine the 800 feet is a rough number. The chances of its being exactly 800 feet, anyway, when you include mechanical penthouses and such is not likely.