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Old Posted Jun 28, 2012, 10:25 PM
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We're drifting off topic here, but let's just say that all of the towers will be visible on the skyline.
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Tower is a fine example of what not to do in terms of cost-cutting and how to make a lightweight design for a tower heavy and dull looking. Still, it is very good news that it is going ahead.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2012, 10:15 AM
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Not true at all.


If we are talking about viewpoints, I am right. T2 will hide T1 from the Brooklyn bridge. T2 will hide T3 from The Empire State Building. So, again, unless you see Downtown from Jersey City (another viewpoint), it won't have a "Huge impact" on the skyline for it will stand on the way of another existing big tower.

Make no mistake, I love T2 but as we have to wait for it, allow me to use what we call in French "La méthode coué" (it's a method of self-persuasion). It's simple, you just have to tell yourself again and again: "T2 is not that important, T2 is not that important...". It's a good way to wait for it without suffering.

To stay on topic and to summarize my thoughts, I really think that If T3 gets build anytime soon, it will really fill a hole from any viewpoints.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2012, 11:32 PM
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I'm pretty excited to hear that Tower 3 will continue to be constructed, rather than getting stopped at the 7th floor, or "stumped."

With the recent cutbacks, I can only hope the parapets are thick and blend well with the rest of the tower, better than the ones atop the NY Times building in Midtown. The lighting scheme will also play a major role in how the crown fits with this king. This was my favorite tower of the bunch, but I'm starting to think Tower 2 will take its shine.
     
     
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^^

An idea of what the lighting scheme could look like up top. Reminds me of Goldmans lighting scheme, with just the very top of the building illuminated. I'm sure they'll light up the 4 little spires as well somehow. I'm interested to know who the tenant could be though...


http://www.silversteinproperties.com.../175-greenwich
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2012, 1:16 AM
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it looks like they lit up the parapet glass?
     
     
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If we are talking about viewpoints, I am right. T2 will hide T1 from the Brooklyn bridge. T2 will hide T3 from The Empire State Building.
I understand your point of view and agree about how T2 could hide T3 from the Empire State Building. It makes perfect sense based on the proximity, location and height.

How about a secret pic?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2012, 10:29 PM
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If we are talking about viewpoints, I am right. T2 will hide T1 from the Brooklyn bridge. T2 will hide T3 from The Empire State Building. So, again, unless you see Downtown from Jersey City (another viewpoint), it won't have a "Huge impact" on the skyline for it will stand on the way of another existing big tower.

This is your statment:

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Especially that T2 won't have a big impact on the skyline unless you live in New Jersey or Staten Island.
And it is NOT true. Firstly, all of the towers will impact the skyline. Secondly, tower 2's impact will be largest from the northern side of the tower, which Jersey and Staten Island are not on.

As far as viewing Tower 3 from the top of the ESB, that's a ridiculous way to judge skyline impact. The best way to judge skyline impact is simply looking at the skyline, and there will be a variety of angles to do so.
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Even 4WTC dominates the skyline. It's taller than everything around it by quite a lot, besides 1WTC.
     
     
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tower 2's impact will be largest from the northern side of the tower, which Jersey and Staten Island are not on.
The best angle of T2 will be the side facing south west. This side will only be seen from New Jersey and Staten Island.

T3 has a much more classic design which will be fully appreciated from anywhere.

As a NY specialist, do you have any information regarding the rumor that T3 is now on its way to the top without any break?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2012, 12:48 PM
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The best angle of T2 will be the side facing south west. This side will only be seen from New Jersey and Staten Island.
The best side is debatable. The most formidable side, meaning the most dominant will be from the north/east where the sheer wall rises.


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As a NY specialist, do you have any information regarding the rumor that T3 is now on its way to the top without any break?
I only know what I've read, and Silverstein hasn't confirmed anything as of yet, nor has the Port Authority.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

Cuomo Helps Silverstein's 9/11 Lawsuit

July 2, 2012
By JACOB GERSHMAN And ELIOT BROWN


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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration is leaning on airlines and their insurers to settle a long-running lawsuit over the 9/11 attacks with World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein, in a bid to help Ground Zero construction. Mr. Cuomo's top insurance regulator, Benjamin Lawsky, recently warned airline insurers that the absence of a settlement has "undermined public confidence in the insurance industry and slowed redevelopment of the attack site."

The Cuomo administration's intervention marks a turn for Mr. Silverstein's effort to make the aviation industry compensate him for what he said were "reckless" security breaches that allowed Islamic hijackers to board airplanes with weapons and gain access to the cockpits. Mr. Silverstein sued American and United in 2004, seeking $12.3 billion in damages. But the developer's case has struggled in U.S. District Court. Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein has already capped potential damages at $2.8 billion and signaled support for the airline's main argument—that any award would be offset by the more than $4 billion Mr. Silverstein recovered from his property insurers in a 2007 settlement.

State officials said they aren't taking sides with Mr. Silverstein but are anxious to help development in a Lower Manhattan neighborhood still caught between rebuilding and recession. While Mr. Silverstein has the right to build three towers at the World Trade Center site, the 2007 settlement has thus far resulted in only one building, 4 World Trade Center, which was topped out last week. Mr. Silverstein has said the other two planned towers —2 World Trade Center and 3 World Trade Center—aren't feasible without securing large tenants, given a slowly recovering economy and an environment where lenders are hesitant to finance new office towers. In theory, a large infusion of insurance money could help him to move forward with those buildings, although it would likely take several hundreds of millions of dollars just to start on one of them.

A spokesman for Silverstein Properties said resolving the dispute "would accelerate full completion of the World Trade Center rebuilding, and deliver jobs for thousands of unemployed construction workers."
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2012, 12:52 PM
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In late June 2012, David Zalesne president of Owen Steel confirmed that construction of the tower will continue and that Owen Steel has been selected to provide the structural steel for the building.[15][16] This has no yet been confirmed by Silverstein Properties or the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

From Wikipedia.

Not a reliable source, but does provide so optimism.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 6:05 AM
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What an awesome overhead pic NYGUY! That just shows how important WTC 3 is. I'm not tring to debate WTC 2 or 3. On what tower is better. But it shows how important 3 is being the meat in the sandwich. It bridges the memorial with 4 WTC and the transportation hub. Having all that work going on and getting is complete asap, is a big plus! 2 wtc is kind of away from the rest of project. Not by a huge amount, but it certainly will be a great, grand finale!
     
     
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Look at the numbers! They supplied 10,000 tons of steel for the memorial and they have been contracted to supply and fabricate 27,000 tons for 3WTC. That would not be enough to construct the whole tower.

"There'll be 27,000 tons of structural steel," said Cooke. "We'll buy the raw material, we'll detail it, we'll engineer it, we'll fabricate it, manufacture it right here at our facility in Columbia and then we'll ship it to Manhattan."By Brandi Cummings.
27,000 tons is enough to construct 3WTC.
1WTC uses over 45,000 tons of steel.
     
     
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Last night, I had this bad dream that the 3 World Trade Center was cancelled! And I thought it was real too!
     
     
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