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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 11:55 AM
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It's been 40 months since your post, e_r, but I just stumbled across an early photo of 16 Thornton:



January 4, 1913, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC
Fantastic find Flyingwedge!! u da man.

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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 12:23 PM
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An ebay seller is/was selling her father's slides from when he was stationed at Fort Pendleton in 1950-53
[althought I noticed some slide are 1956...but they're not in this group]. She says "He would often go to Hollywood while on leave."

Perhaps by happenstance, or planned, he was at Grauman's Chinese Theater when actress Mona Freeman (who?) placed her hands and footprints in the cement.


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I remember the name...or am I just remembering Lee Grant addressing her maid in ludicrous baby talk--“Mona, Mona, Mona”--in Shampoo?

Guess I thought maybe she was an actress in the Betty Furness vein, opening Westinghouse ice boxes, etc, but no, she was BIG:



Well, the picture was small, but it did have Scott Brady in it, who was very very BIG


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Brady and Freeman--I assume this is from that megahit I Was a Shoplifter


Here's Mona with Mr. Dinah Shore, holding in his stomach to great effect. She's not looking so dewey here though.

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Some info from the "Highlight Hollywood" site

"Beautiful actress Mona Freeman, cast as a perpetual teenager throughout the 1940s and ’50s in such films as The Heiress, Junior Miss, Dear Ruth and I Was a Shoplifter, has died. She was 87.

Freeman died May 23 in her Beverly Hills home after a long illness, her daughter, actress Monie Ellis, told the Los Angeles Times. Miss Freeman also was a painter, whose portrait of Mary See has been displayed for years in See’s Candies stores across the U.S.

Freeman played Marian Almond, the cousin of Olivia de Havilland’s character who gets engaged in William Wyler’s acclaimed film The Heiress (1949)"


Actually, Mona was a little bigger than I thought. She was in a movie with William Holden, and in one of the best movies ever made (IMO)...have seen it many times--but I don't remember Mona Freeman in it at all. But here she is:



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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 1:52 PM
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Thanks for the information on Mona Freeman GW. I wasn't sure who she was.

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I remember the name...or am I just remembering Lee Grant addressing her maid in ludicrous baby talk--“Mona, Mona, Mona”--in Shampoo?
like how I remember Geraldine Chaplin calling out for her maid-- "Nanine, Nanine, Nanine." ---in 'Welcome to L.A'.
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"Nanine, Nanine" originated in a much more famous movie...Camille (1936)
In Welcome to L.A.---Geraldine Chaplin has some sort of weird Greta Garbo complex, and is calling out for Garbo's maid!

"Nanine. Nanine. Nanine!" [GASP. DEAD]

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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 3:55 PM
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re: The New Zoo

The Los Angeles Zoo trams.. fresh from the factory. [1967]


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You can see them in action HERE


I think they just borrowed it from Universal Studios.

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Before we get too far removed from our recent discussion of Catalina...

I would like to post this magnificent Kodachrome slide of Avalon that was taken in 1965.


old file / found on ebay

There's so much to see! Be sure to pan right to see the seaplane ------>

Where are all the people?
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hmmm...and where's our mystery fountain? (oh wait. nevermind...I see it )
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2018, 4:26 PM
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Catalina Island Map



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Before we get too far removed from our recent discussion of Catalina...

I would like to post this magnificent Kodachrome slide of Avalon that was taken in 1965.


old file / found on ebay

There's so much to see! Be sure to pan right to see the seaplane ------>

Where are all the people?
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hmmm...and where's our mystery fountain? (oh wait. nevermind...I see it )
Thanks, e_r--wonderful image! Note on the steamer pier (the second pier "in"), there's a portion (with red-tiled roof) going onto terra firma that comes off the pier at an angle. The horde of steamer passengers would exit the pier this way, normally; the "straight ahead" portion of the pier was for the carts of luggage unloaded from the ship, and for the captain and crew and I suppose Island Company employees, to use. If I'm not mistaken, during some repaving or renovation work on the portion of front street directly in front of where the steamer pier had been, there were found remnants of an underground passage with an apparent rail system, seemingly from the earliest (pre-fire) days; presumably this was to "rail" the luggage unloaded from the steamer(s) under front street to a location across the street, where the luggage would be arranged as to destination (the various hotels) preparatory to being variously dispatched to said destinations.

The lack of people is silent testimony to one of the rarely-discussed aspects of Catalina life, the formerly rampant cannibalism. This was successfully put down in Avalon decades ago by the banning of open fires, cauldrons, and Worcestershire Sauce; but I cannot address what might be the current situation at the Isthmus.
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The lack of people is silent testimony to one of the rarely-discussed aspects of Catalina life, the formerly rampant cannibalism. This was successfully put down in Avalon decades ago...
I've heard this as well, I don't believe it. I have a sensitive sense of smell and have detected the faint aroma of Worcestershire Sauce on my visits to Avalon.
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During renovation work, they found remnants of an underground passage with an apparent rail system.
I suspect it was used for

S H A N G H A I I N G !

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I suspect it was used for

S H A N G H A I I N G !

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Exactly, that's where the residents got their dinner.
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Did Catalina had a tram too? I found these 1964 snapshots in the Handsome Family photo archives. The first snap suggests we're looking out the side of a tram. And my then-8-year-old sister could never have been talked into walking that far up the hillside at Avalon.





(No photos of the fountain were found, alas.)
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Did Catalina had a tram too? I found these 1964 snapshots in the Handsome Family photo archives. The first snap suggests we're looking out the side of a tram. And my then-8-year-old sister could never have been talked into walking that far up the hillside at Avalon.





(No photos of the fountain were found, alas.)
On Madame and my first trip to the island, we took a bus tour that went out to the airport, your pics look like the same route.
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Wow....I wasn't expecting that nifty detail! Thanks for connecting the two addresses robeach11.

Here is her father's laundry business at the same address.

I can't remember if we have seen this on NLA. Oh well...here it is anyway.



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Looking at aerial maps provided here earlier, it seems pretty much a match for where the laundry/home site was located. Fascinating.
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Santa Monica Incline Railway

Since we recently looked at two former incline railways, I wondered if anyone knows anything about one at the
end of San Vicente Blvd., just south of the mouth of Santa Monica Canyon. Except for this article, I couldn't find
any information on the Santa Monica incline railway:





December 27, 1913, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC

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A few follow-ups re 241 N Figueroa...


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Well, guys, I think that the building in question is the smaller of the the Dept of Health Services buildings--at 241 N Figueroa...

View of the front of 241 S Fig. The building seems to have been under construction in 1972 rather than 1969...


Here's an image of the original configuration of ER's Figueroa Street mystery building. After assuming at first that it was a new structure going up ca 1970, I think I then wrote that it was a remodeling of an earlier building...here is that building, built in 1951, in a photo dated Dec 13, 1959... just as foreign cars were really getting popular (I spy an example of our old friend, the uberlemon Renault Dauphine, and two Volvos).

(I wish they'd left it alone):


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Here is her father's laundry business at the same address.

I can't remember if we have seen this on NLA. Oh well...here it is anyway.

And some sad Wong noir, right in front of the laundry:


LAT Nov 12, 1930

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Since we recently looked at two former incline railways, I wondered if anyone knows anything about one at the
end of San Vicente Blvd., just south of the mouth of Santa Monica Canyon. Except for this article, I couldn't find
any information on the Santa Monica incline railway:



December 27, 1913, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC
I haven't found any more pictures of the Santa Monica inclined railway, but I did check the old aerials. The detail below is from an image taken on January 2, 1928. I can't see any sign of a railway opposite San Vicente, but there is a straight line down the bluff opposite Adelaide Drive (arrowed). The path down to Ocean Way seems to cross it halfway down the slope, which corresponds to the picture above. The area to the left is now the 101 Ocean Avenue condominiums.


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Thanks, Hoss. That must be where the incline was.
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You mean there was another incline we didn't know about?
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'mystery' theater [I figured out the theater toward the end of the post / I decided to leave the post as is because these slides are quite exceptional.]

Here are more slides taken by the man that was stationed at Camp Pendleton in the 1950s. [the same man that took the Mona Freeman / Grauman's Chinese Theater pics].
His daughter [the seller] says he visited Hollywood and Los Angeles numerous times while on leave.


The first person we see is Eddie Fisher.








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This is what I call a CLOSE UP!


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I think the banner might hold some clues. (but KRNT is a radio station out of Des Moines Iowa )






He snapped this one right in his face. OUCH!


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This next slide gives you a good look at the stage stairs. It doesn't appear to be a fancy place.

Dog Act

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Dean Martin


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Jerry Lewis









Lewis & Martin


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lots of chipped paint.







I was just beginning to toy with the idea that this might be a 'road show' in some other town

when ROBERT MITCHUM shows up!


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There was also this guy doing some kind of Popeye impersonation.


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In our last slide we see Jerry Lewis, and numerous other people, taking off in a limo.


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here's Jer

detail


and a very nice looking lady in the front seat (actually the middle seat)


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This is Des Moines. -not Hollywood. sorry.

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At least all the performers are Hollywood people. -well maybe not that Popeye fellow...and that ugly dog.


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