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Old Posted Apr 15, 2020, 2:15 PM
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8 East Broadway | 45m | 14fl | Proposed

24 East Broadway Avenue & 2520 Ontario Street



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The City of Vancouver has received an application to rezone 24 E Broadway & 2520 Ontario Street from Commercial District (C-3A) to Comprehensive Development District (CD-1) to allow for a 12-storey commercial office building. The proposal includes:


• 20,284 sq. ft. of retail space
• 104,755 sq. ft. of office space
• Total floor area of 125,039 sq. ft.
• Building height of 147.67 ft.
• Floor space ratio (FSR) of 7.75

• 6 levels of underground parking, including 230 vehicle parking and 68 bicycle parking

This application is being considered under the Metro Core Jobs and Economy Land Use Plan.
24 East Broadway Avenue & 2520 Ontario Street
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Thanks for creating a thread.

Updating title as per information on https://changingcitybook.wordpress.c...east-broadway/
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Thanks for creating a thread.

Updating title as per information on https://changingcitybook.wordpress.c...east-broadway/
The drawings are marked as '8 E Broadway', but the legal street addresses (for the time being) for applying for the rezoning are 24 E Broadway and 2530 Ontario. So they're both correct.
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The drawings are marked as '8 E Broadway', but the legal street addresses (for the time being) for applying for the rezoning are 24 E Broadway and 2530 Ontario. So they're both correct.
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It is an absolute shame that the view cones are completely crippling the potential of Broadway street and the rest of the city. Those view cones are only reserved for the rich and they continue to promote urban sprawl.

I am glad that this proposal is happening and I am hoping to see more like it however I don't see other offices and proposals giving more density to the area with the Viewcones 3.2.4/a in place. These view cones need to be abolished or at the very least, revised.
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It is an absolute shame that the view cones are completely crippling the potential of Broadway street and the rest of the city. Those view cones are only reserved for the rich and they continue to promote urban sprawl.

I am glad that this proposal is happening and I am hoping to see more like it however I don't see other offices and proposals giving more density to the area with the Viewcones 3.2.4/a in place. These view cones need to be abolished or at the very least, revised.
While I agree with the sentiment lets be honest this isn't a rich vs poor thing. The people for view cones aren't "rich".

They tend to be an alliance of foreign haters, anti-capitalists and NIMBYs.

Also viewcones aren't a large issue. Probably you can max the FSR of lots in a lot of the viewcone zones without hitting the max height.
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While I agree with the sentiment lets be honest this isn't a rich vs poor thing. The people for view cones aren't "rich".

They tend to be an alliance of foreign haters, anti-capitalists and NIMBYs.

Also viewcones aren't a large issue. Probably you can max the FSR of lots in a lot of the viewcone zones without hitting the max height.
The rich will snap up the penthouses of the tallest towers around.

If the City has better planning teams, they will designate commercial buildings with rooftop public access. The not-so-rich will then have fun venues to go and shut up. Example: Skygarden in London: free public access!

Skygarden:
https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Attractio...n_England.html

West Broadway is well-positioned to have a roof-top viewing gallery with awesome views of downtown and the mountains beyond, if only buildings can go that high up.

Viewcones need to be eradicated.
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Pre-application Stats & Renders

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For those interested, here's a couple photos of the pre-application version of this proposal from the General Thread, and the link to City Duo's recap of the applicant-led open house.
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Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but I thought that the CoV wasn't looking at rezoning applications until the Broadway Corridor Plan was complete.

Anyways, I think this is the second major proposal along this stretch of Broadway, including that twin tower proposal at the MEC site. It won't be long until we see a total transformation.
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Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but I thought that the CoV wasn't looking at rezoning applications until the Broadway Corridor Plan was complete.
Half right. The freeze was until this year... at which point developers can apparently either give up and start building now, or wait for the Plan to allow them greater density and/or height limits.
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Looks good, decent FSR of nearly 8.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2020, 6:49 PM
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Half right. The freeze was until this year... at which point developers can apparently either give up and start building now, or wait for the Plan to allow them greater density and/or height limits.
Lol the "2 year" plan is stalled on its early 2019 phase 2 stage.
https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...dway-plan.aspx

Feels like we're doing an environmental assessment here.
The plan was supposed to be finishing up now (Phase 3 finished June 2020) with presentations to Council Phase 4 finished Dec 2020. Instead halfway through phase 2 with phase 3 still to go before going before Council.
https://council.vancouver.ca/2018062...ents/pspc3.pdf

Btw any idea where I can read the date for when the freeze ends? What I read was that it continues until the planning was over with no fixed date.

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Lol the "2 year" plan is stalled on its early 2019 phase 2 stage.
https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...dway-plan.aspx

Feels like we're doing an environmental assessment here.
The plan was supposed to be finishing up now (Phase 3 finished June 2020) with presentations to Council Phase 4 finished Dec 2020. Instead halfway through phase 2 with phase 3 still to go before going before Council.
https://council.vancouver.ca/2018062...ents/pspc3.pdf

Btw any idea where I can read the date for when the freeze ends? What I read was that it continues until the planning was over with no fixed date.
It's well into Phase 3.
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It's well into Phase 3.
Phase 1 completed at the end of 2019. Phase 2 was split into two parts with the first meetings being held and the 2nd were supposed to occur in March, then April, and now online sometime. At least thats what I heard unless there changing Phase 2 part 2 to Phase 3 and have given up on the original Phase 3 which was to review and refine everything.

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Phase 1 engagement summary report
The report summarizes what we heard from March 7 to September 7, 2019.
https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...dway-plan.aspx
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Scheduled for public hearing / feedback summary


pg13
https://council.vancouver.ca/2020100...ments/rr_1.pdf


pg 44
https://council.vancouver.ca/2020100...ments/rr_1.pdf


pg 46
https://council.vancouver.ca/2020100...ments/rr_1.pdf

As this project is heading to a public hearing this Tuesday, October 27, here's some of the feedback it's received. Of course, this pales in comparison to the hate that's being thrown to the MIRHPP rezoning at Broadway and Alma, which is also scheduled for the same day. For anyone looking to speak, or send in a quick comment, here's the link - https://vancouver.ca/your-government...c-hearing.aspx

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Thank you Feathered Friend for the link .

It takes less than 5 minutes to send your feedback concerning 8 East Broadway. Whether you support or oppose it, this is a time to speak to the city directly about your thoughts on it.

When I went on the site, it seemed like it was acting kind of funny when loading the confirmation page. My tip here is to select to receive a confirmation email so that you know for sure that your feedback was received. This is probably just me using a crappy browser though so I don't imagine that everyone will experience this same small issue .
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#VanCityCouncil approves item 6. CD-1 Rezoning: 24 East Broadway and 2520 Ontario Street unanimously.
https://twitter.com/VanCityClerk/sta...372773888?s=20
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Even Hardwick? That's new.
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Awesome. I love these smaller office projects popping up outside of downtown.
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