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Old Posted Dec 10, 2019, 11:34 PM
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Anthony Leblanc just said on CTV he may be interested in a pop-up stadium in Halifax for the CFL until the stadium is built.
He also said he doesn't want to own and operate the stadium, he wants a non-profit to own and operate it.
And he insisted the $20,000,000 is up front when Murphy said the money from HRM would only come when the stadium is built.
Does LeBlanc think we are stupid or does he have a comprehension problem - the staff report clearly states that the money would only be available when the stadium is complete
" Authorize the CAO to negotiate a Contribution Agreement substantially in accordance with terms outlined in Table 1 of this report, to provide for a one-time contribution of $20M towards the cost of construction of a community stadium to be payable upon substantial completion of construction. " see page 2 of staff report
https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...1210rc1514.pdf

and on page 4 : " HRM’s one-time contribution would be payable upon both Substantial Completion and successful commissioning of the stadium being completed, and as per the key conditions of this term sheet. Payment would be estimated to occur in fiscal 2022-23 or 2023-24 "
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Halifax agrees to contribute $20M toward construction of stadium for CFL team
The Canadian Press, December 10, 2019

HALIFAX -- A business group hoping to land a CFL franchise for Halifax got a lease on life Tuesday when regional council voted in favour of a one-time $20-million contribution toward construction of a stadium in the East Coast city.

Following a lengthy debate, councillors voted 10 to 7 to accept the funding recommendation from city staff -- provided certain conditions are met.

The proponents need to find an acceptable site with public transportation links, and the money would be paid only after construction is substantially completed.

Anthony LeBlanc, the founding partner of Schooner Sports and Entertainment, expressed relief following the council meeting, saying the decision was a "watershed moment" for the business group's initiative.

"This could have gone very much the other way where we would have been pretty much dead in our tracks," LeBlanc told reporters.

"We are excited that the process is moving forward. Now there is some teeth in this thing, there's some real commitment from Halifax Regional Municipality, and based off conditions that we feel very comfortable that we will be able to manage."

The business group had proposed building a $110-million, 24,000-seat stadium in Shannon Park on land near the city's MacKay Bridge that was formerly used for military housing.

But a staff report recommended against the Shannon Park site in favour of finding another. Halifax Mayor Mike Savage said while the stadium issue is far from settled, the project remains alive thanks to work put in by city staff.

"The team here at the city did tremendous work in analyzing this and saying, 'Some of these proposals don't make any sense to us. Is there one that does?' And the one they came up with is certainly one I can support."

The staff document said the proposed Shannon Park site is severely encumbered by a CN rail line and poor transportation access, meaning the municipality would likely have had to invest in a new ferry terminal nearby and three new ferries, adding tens of millions of dollars in costs.

The report said while such a stadium would add valuable infrastructure to the city, the financial options proposed by SSE would require a considerable amount of public funds that are dependent upon the success of an "untested Halifax CFL franchise and Halifax market."

Despite its reservations, the staff report noted that a partnership with the private sector offers a chance to build a stadium where the private partner carries the majority of the cost and the risk.

The report recommended the city take no ownership in the stadium, make no loan guarantee and not cover ongoing capital or maintenance costs.

Halifax chief administrative officer Jacques Dube said a final funding agreement and site would have to be formally approved by council before the stadium project ultimately moves ahead. He said that would also be contingent on some sort of provincial involvement, which hasn't been determined yet.

LeBlanc acknowledged that there is still a lot of work to do, including finding new land and securing financing for the stadium. He said his group also needs to get the province to buy in.

"It's now over to the province for them to make their decisions of if and how they will participate," he said. "The concepts of hotel tax levy increases and car rental taxes are simply that, ideas that are out there. But we are very open to working with the province in a manner that makes the most sense for the province."

Council's decision on Tuesday came after SSE's proposal narrowly averted being killed outright in October when council voted nine to eight to proceed further with the staff study.
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Anthony Leblanc just said on CTV he may be interested in a pop-up stadium in Halifax for the CFL until the stadium is built.
Steve Murphy interviews Schooner Sports and Entertainment president Anthony Leblanc about today's vote at Halifax Regional Council on a staff report recommending support for a CFL stadium -- with conditions.
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Anthony Leblanc just said on CTV he may be interested in a pop-up stadium in Halifax for the CFL until the stadium is built.
I watched the interview

To be fair, LeBlanc began by reiterating his original position that the team might play for a year or two in Moncton while the Halifax Stadium was built. It was only on subsequent discussion with, and a couple of leading questions by Steve Murphy that LeBlanc said that a temporary pop-up stadium in Halifax might be an option.

Steve Murphy loves to stir the pot of regional jealousies and competition especially Moncton vs Halifax.
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I might be wrong, but I see this as the end of SSE's proposal. Seems to me like the $20 million contribution is a shrewd way of saying HRM does not support SSE's stadium while looking like they support a stadium. Everyone is putting on a big forced smile and saying it's a big win, but that $20 million is so far from SSE's request I can't see how it all pencils out, unless they did already have a viable go-it-alone plan and were just hoping to get some gravy from HRM.
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It does seem like lukewarm support, yes, and it quite definitely puts the ball in the provinces court. The province will have to come up with at least matching funds to make this project viable. I doubt that the feds will get involved.
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I watched the interview

To be fair, LeBlanc began by reiterating his original position that the team might play for a year or two in Moncton while the Halifax Stadium was built. It was only on subsequent discussion with, and a couple of leading questions by Steve Murphy that LeBlanc said that a temporary pop-up stadium in Halifax might be an option.

Steve Murphy loves to stir the pot of regional jealousies and competition especially Moncton vs Halifax.
I don't think it's going to go over well with Halifax and Nova Scotia taxpayers after being asked to contribute significant $ to construction of the stadium to host the CFL team and the city of Moncton/Province of N.B. gets the economic benefits for the first season or two without putting any $ toward this.

A caller on The Rick Howe Show this morning on NEWS 95.7 after Anthony LeBlanc was on the show said he wants to know why they aren't calling the team the "Halifax Schooners" or "Nova Scotia Schooners" if Halifax and Nova Scotia are the ones funding construction of the stadium for the CFL team.
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It was all very strategic by HRM, I agree. I cannot see SSP finding this in any way acceptable. So with no chance of it actually going ahead, those who voted in favor (who likely represent the sentiment of a majority of residents in their district) can say "I voted for this but those other bad Council members and unreasonable HRM staff shot it down", while those who voted against and likely represent the sentiments of a majority of voters in their districts can say "I was against this and look, I did the right thing".
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I don't think it's going to go over well with Halifax and Nova Scotia taxpayers after being asked to contribute significant $ to construction of the stadium to host the CFL team and the city of Moncton/Province of N.B. gets the economic benefits for the first season or two without putting any $ toward this.

A caller on The Rick Howe Show this morning on NEWS 95.7 after Anthony LeBlanc was on the show said he wants to know why they aren't calling the team the "Halifax Schooners" or "Nova Scotia Schooners" if Halifax and Nova Scotia are the ones funding construction of the stadium for the CFL team.
Moncton undoubtedly will kick in some money to upgrade the Medavie Blue Cross Stadium if the Schooners call Moncton home for a year or two, especially for washrooms and concessions. They will also have to expand the stadium to at least 12,000 seats (maybe 15,000). These of course will be temporary bleachers, but there is still a cost.

There is also the value of the goodwill in demonstrating that the Schooners will indeed be a regional team. A year or two in Moncton perhaps might mean an extra 1,000 fans per game driving down to Halifax on game day after the team moves. I'm sure Anthony LeBlanc is well aware of this.

LeBlanc is also from eastern NB, and has a good working relationship with Moncton Mayor Dawn Arnold. I dare say that his experiences dealing with the city of Moncton so far have been a lot more positive than they have been with the city of Halifax.

As for your disgruntled Haligonians calling in to the Rick Howe Show, every one of them bitching about the team not being called the Halifax Schooners because the team is in Halifax is just feeding the negative perceptions out there about how Haligonians feel about the ROTM (rest of the Maritimes).

I know that the manner in which this is handled over the next year or so will make a big difference to me personally in terms of how many times a year I go out of my way to drive down to Halifax for a game. It might be the difference between three times a year or perhaps once every two years.

Moncton is the next closest biggest market for the Schooners. If LeBlanc does something to piss Monctonians off, this could cut into the teams bottom line - big time.
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