[Moncton] East (Harrisville, Lewisville, Tankville, Irishtown) Developments - Page 53

micks5477 · #**1041** Posted **Jan 11, 2018, 7:36 PM**

It has been confirmed that Costco will be located on Granit Drive off of Elmwood Drive. Source: City of Moncton Planning Advisory Committee. It will be larger than Saint John and Fredericton. Moncton Costco approximately 154,000 sq. ft. and Saint John location is 152,000, and the Fredericton location is 146,000.

https://www.moncton.ca/Government/De...ttee__PAC_.htm

MonctonRad · #**1042** Posted **Jan 16, 2018, 9:00 PM**

Apparently Councillor Boudreau has rescinded his motion to remove the (e) from Granite, so now it's back to Granite Drive again (this info from Mayor Dawn Arnold's FB page).

Scarface · #**1043** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 10:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Apparently Councillor Boudreau has rescinded his motion to remove the (e) from Granite, so now it's back to Granite Drive again (this info from Mayor Dawn Arnold's FB page).

Does this remind me of the Sh*t Show when it came to Crystal Palace? The name on the building was Palais Crystal Palace. Understandably so when you have mostly french Acadians, and French from Quebec ariving at your place of bussiness but that was a marketing ploy not to offend there would be clients this is seemingly a complaint you would get either out of Dieppe city hall, or Riverview town hall to me. As a Bilingual Atlantic Canadian I thought it was nothing more then complaining to complain.

Acajack · #**1044** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Scarface

Does this remind me of the Sh*t Show when it came to Crystal Palace? The name on the building was Palais Crystal Palace. Understandably so when you have mostly french Acadians, and French from Quebec ariving at your place of bussiness but that was a marketing ploy not to offend there would be clients this is seemingly a complaint you would get either out of Dieppe city hall, or Riverview town hall to me. As a Bilingual Atlantic Canadian I thought it was nothing more then complaining to complain.

Palais Crystal Palace was such an ugly name, as bilingual names often are. (And if we wanna nitpick, ''crystal'' is spelled ''cristal'' in French anyway.

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Scarface · #**1045** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 4:31 PM**

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Palais Crystal Palace was such an ugly name, as bilingual names often are. (And if we wanna nitpick, ''crystal'' is spelled ''cristal'' in French anyway.

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I'm well aware of how it looks but my point remains. It was a non sense complaint by a councilor.

I'm wondering if the same complaint would have been made if this project along with the use of Granite Boulevard if it would have been built within the TCH boundary. Because it did seem odd the timming of this complaint.

MonctonRad · #**1046** Posted **Jan 17, 2018, 5:09 PM**

It was pure political opportunism on Councillor Boudreau's part.

The rezoning changes to allow Granite Drive to be extended beyond the municipal service boundary were urgently needed in order to allow the new Costco to be built this year. It seems to me that Councillor Boudreau was prepared to slow down the process and perhaps prevent the imminent construction of the Costco unless his proposal to use the French spelling (Granit) was agreed to. The rest of city council caved to his ultimatum lest they prevent this development from happening. I wonder what caused him to rescind his motion???

The situation is similar to when they built the casino on Mountain Road about a decade ago. Casino Drive was originally planned to connect up to Twin Oaks, but the residents of the temporary cul-de-sac at the west end of Twin Oaks took umbrage to the idea of their quiet little neighbourhood suddenly connected to a busy casino/entertainment/hotel development. They became politically active and were prepared to use whatever legal avenues were available to them to prevent the rezoning to allow the casino until city council caved and built a large fence separating Casino Drive from Twin Oaks.

The two situations are similar in that hurried development projects were being held hostage for political reasons and city council made quick (and possibly rash) decisions in order to placate opponents and ensure that the development projects were not jeopardized.

MonctonRad · #**1047** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 12:23 AM**

According to the T&T, the subdivision plans for the Caledonia Industrial Park South have been changed to allow for an "emergency access route" off of the TCH. Apparently the province has approved of these changes.

I'm not sure exactly what this means, but I assume we're talking about an eastbound exit and entrance ramp off the TCH heading south between the Elmwood and Harrisville interchanges. It would likely be similar to that exit ramp they're talking about from Highway 15 to the Dieppe Industrial Park between the Lewisville and Dieppe Blvd exits.

I have no idea when this will be built.........

This image shows where such an access point into the Caledonia Industrial Park South would join the street grid.

FarmerTom · #**1048** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 3:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The situation is similar to when they built the casino on Mountain Road about a decade ago. Casino Drive was originally planned to connect up to Twin Oaks, but the residents of the temporary cul-de-sac at the west end of Twin Oaks took umbrage to the idea of their quiet little neighbourhood suddenly connected to a busy casino/entertainment/hotel development. They became politically active and were prepared to use whatever legal avenues were available to them to prevent the rezoning to allow the casino until city council caved and built a large fence separating Casino Drive from Twin Oaks.

The two situations are similar in that hurried development projects were being held hostage for political reasons and city council made quick (and possibly rash) decisions in order to placate opponents and ensure that the development projects were not jeopardized.

the casino opened May 2010. Only 8 years.

drewber · #**1049** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 4:03 AM**

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the casino opened May 2010. Only 8 years.

Construction began Fall 2008 so almost a decade ago as he said.

mylesmalley · #**1050** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 2:28 PM**

If it's a regular on/off ramp, what about it makes it 'emergency'?

Nashe · #**1051** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 2:36 PM**

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If it's a regular on/off ramp, what about it makes it 'emergency'?

Does it help you go around floods?

MonctonRad · #**1052** Posted **Jan 18, 2018, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by mylesmalley

If it's a regular on/off ramp, what about it makes it 'emergency'?

Good point. Maybe it won't be a full time access point. Maybe it will be available only in emergency situations. If so, it likely wouldn't have "ramps" per se, likely just a leveled and graded gravel connector to the traffic lanes (a bit like the emergency turnaround points in the center medians of divided highways.

Perhaps this is more likely.

MonctonRad · #**1053** Posted **Jan 20, 2018, 9:10 PM**

The signage for the Kimbao Chinese Buffet has been installed at their location in McLaughlin Place.

Also, there is now a building permit in the window in the last CRU of the strip announcing renovations for Cooperators Insurance.

Now that phase one of McLaughlin Place has been fully leased, I wonder if they will soon proceed with phase two???

Manny2727 · #**1054** Posted **Jan 21, 2018, 10:31 AM**

now that the costco location has been chosen, is anybody hearing about new developments on harrisville blvd in the area of the new kent building supplies?
i noticed they're working on the widening of the bridge over the 15

MonctonRad · #**1055** Posted **Jan 21, 2018, 3:49 PM**

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now that the costco location has been chosen, is anybody hearing about new developments on harrisville blvd in the area of the new kent building supplies?
i noticed they're working on the widening of the bridge over the 15

The widening of the Dieppe Blvd/Harrisville Blvd overpass over Veterans Highway is needed regardless of whether or not Harrisville turns into another retail area.

AFAIK there are no further plans for retail expansion along Harrisville, and with the announcement of Costco going to Granite Drive, I really doubt that there will ever be any significant retail growth along Harrisville. You might see a supermarket, or a neighbourhood retail plaza of some kind, but nothing in the way of a major regional retail draw.

Moncton (with a CMA of 150,000) remains a relatively small regional city. It's actually impressive that we have two major retail nodes (Trinity/Mapleton and the Champlain Place district). We're about to get a third node on Granite Drive, but this will likely be at the expense of some cannibalization of the Trinity/Mapleton district. This is actually unfortunate........

Mapleton_Roadie · #**1056** Posted **Jan 27, 2018, 4:15 PM**

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The widening of the Dieppe Blvd/Harrisville Blvd overpass over Veterans Highway is needed regardless of whether or not Harrisville turns into another retail area.

AFAIK there are no further plans for retail expansion along Harrisville, and with the announcement of Costco going to Granite Drive, I really doubt that there will ever be any significant retail growth along Harrisville. You might see a supermarket, or a neighbourhood retail plaza of some kind, but nothing in the way of a major regional retail draw.

Wonder whatever happened to the proposed multi-use professional/retail/restaurant building that was planned for across Kent and beside the hotel? It was supposed to have a Cora's in it.

Mapleton_Roadie · #**1057** Posted **Feb 4, 2018, 4:00 PM**

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Wonder whatever happened to the proposed multi-use professional/retail/restaurant building that was planned for across Kent and beside the hotel? It was supposed to have a Cora's in it.

http://www.moncton.ca/Assets/Residen...PAC+Agenda.pdf

I know there was a lot of background work by the City to look at water supply and wastewater handling for this proposal.

MonctonRad · #**1058** Posted **Feb 4, 2018, 4:21 PM**

Sorry, don't know anything.

It could be that with the Costco now going to Granite Drive, that this proposed development has been put on the back burner. It should be noted that Corey Craig also had big plans for a major retail plaza on the west side of Harrisville too, but that seems to be on the back burner now too. There is after all room for only so much retail in Moncton, and in general, bricks & mortar is having a hard time of it these days.

Plaza REIT has included a listing for "Moncton East Lands" on their inventory for property to be developed for some time. I suspect this is on the east side of Harrisville, but again, I suspect with Costco going to Granite that nothing will happen here either.

http://plaza.ca/property-portfolio/#nb

Granite Drive will be developed at the expense of Harrisville, and with some cannibalization of the Trinity/Mapleton district too,

Mapleton_Roadie · #**1059** Posted **Feb 4, 2018, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Sorry, don't know anything.

It could be that with the Costco now going to Granite Drive, that this proposed development has been put on the back burner. It should be noted that Corey Craig also had big plans for a major retail plaza on the west side of Harrisville too, but that seems to be on the back burner now too. There is after all room for only so much retail in Moncton, and in general, bricks & mortar is having a hard time of it these days.

Plaza REIT has included a listing for "Moncton East Lands" on their inventory for property to be developed for some time. I suspect this is on the east side of Harrisville, but again, I suspect with Costco going to Granite that nothing will happen here either.

http://plaza.ca/property-portfolio/#nb

Granite Drive will be developed at the expense of Harrisville, and with some cannibalization of the Trinity/Mapleton district too,

That is what I was thinking too. Having gone back in the PAC agendas since 2015, there are a lot of things that were proposed and/or approved yet did not or have not yet made it to reality.

MonctonRad · #**1060** Posted **Feb 6, 2018, 12:55 AM**

From Mayor Dawn Arnold's FB summary of tonights council meeting:

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We then moved to Planning Matters with a rezoning at 1109 Shediac Road (R2-SC) to build a medical clinic/pharmacy/cafe/restaurant

This land is currently contains a private dwelling on a large lot near the SW corner of Shediac Rd/Harrisville, near Bistro 33