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Old Posted Feb 18, 2008, 4:56 PM
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This one is already underway. Eric Owen Moss, Gateway Art Tower, LA:







http://www.arcspace.com/architects/M.../arttower.html
wow, i've never heard of this. thanks!
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Gehry's proposal for the NY Times building looked interesting...the skin incorporates some giant typeset, though this is hard to tell from the pic - you can see it most clearly on the crown.


http://guggenheim.org/exhibitions/pa...mes_31pop.html
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Even though I'm not really a fan of Gehry's high rise designs, I think that would have been much better than what was built.
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As for unbuilt Gehry proposals - I guess I have mixed feelings about the Progressive Insurance Center planned for Cleveland in the late 80s.

The good: it would have brought 3,000 employees of Progressive into downtown; it would have incorporated some major public art pieces, including an Oldenburg newspaper as the crown; it would have bridged the railroad that runs along the lakefront; it would have been the second-tallest after Key Tower at 858 feet. The bad: the proportions are a little ungainly; it would have really unbalanced the skyline - for the most part, Cleveland's skyline has a "pyramid" silhouette and this would be a sore thumb. Part of me says it would have been kick-@ss; part of me thinks there might be a more appropriate design for the site:



It would have been built just above and to the left where you see the domed structure on the lakefront (center-right of the photo - the IMAX theatre at the Great Lakes Science Center):
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one of the greatest never-built-but-should-have-been-built buildings ever.
this is gropius' submission for the tribune tower design competition. but in true chicago fashion we got stuck with that god awful neo-POS. lame.


*photo is public domain



For fun, here are a few of the other Tribune Tower competition entries.

Eliel Saarinen:

http://www.brynmawr.edu/Acads/Cities...imgb3/164c.jpg

Adolf Loos:

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fna...ibune_loos.jpg

Jens Fredrick Larson:

http://www.dartmo.com/berry/images/chitrib.html

Didio Gioguardi:

http://www.lynnbecker.com/repeat/ctbuh/ctbuh.htm

Heinrich Mossdorf:

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fna...e_mossdorf.jpg

Another Gropius shot:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/ar...gn/19pogr.html

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The Saarninen entry is impressive in its own right for being the inspiration to several built towers. I've never seen the Gioguardi or the Larson proposals - those are pretty horrific!
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^ LOL And the Mossdorf!
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Didn't see that until you edited the thread but yeah - yikes!
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^ Yeah, I was still culling entry pics - sorry.

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As for unbuilt Gehry proposals - I guess I have mixed feelings about the Progressive Insurance Center planned for Cleveland in the late 80s.....
I really believe that the Gehry Tower would have been a worthy companion to Terminal Tower. Didn't they go so far as to clear the lot for this?
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wrabbit, you're thinking of the Ameritrust Center (1198 feet, located one block north of the Terminal Tower - lower left of the image), basically in the center of the CBD:



The Ameritrust site was cleared but right at that time, Society Bank acquired Ameritrust and a few years later merged with KeyBank.

The Progressive Center was planned for the northeasternmost site of the 1903 Group Plan designed by Daniel Burnham, adjacent to Cleveland City Hall. The Burnham Group Plan was all about low-rise neo-classical buildings lining a grand greenspace - something like the Mall in Washington, DC. So to see an 858 foot Gehry tower placed at such an oddball site would have been cool, but odd, but cool, but... you get the idea.
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My pick would be the Miglin-Beitler Skyneedle. Thought it looked better than 7SD.

As for Progressive Tower, I think the extra sculptures on the building would have looked somewhat tacky. Ameritrust would have been awesome despite the lackluster top.
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i'm sorry guys, but the words best and frank o. gehry do NOT go together. gehry is joke, and decon is bullshit.
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i'm sorry guys, but the words best and frank o. gehry do NOT go together. gehry is joke, and decon is bullshit.
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how can u say these in consecutive posts?

both are bad (and similar)
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What the hell is this? And worse, the rendering? Did they expect the World Financial Center to just vanish? I know its an old render, but ewwh.

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and as much as i think adrian smith is kind of a chump, i really liked 7SD:
Ahh Yes, an incredibly sad loss

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And what is this sexy building? And when will it be completed!

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Greatness? This is greatness.

The best never-built, possibly ever. So sad.





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Gehry's proposal for the NY Times building looked interesting...the skin incorporates some giant typeset, though this is hard to tell from the pic - you can see it most clearly on the crown.


http://guggenheim.org/exhibitions/pa...mes_31pop.html
I love this building. I dont know how it would translate in real life but, it looks great like that.
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