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WestJet drops direct flights between Saskatchewan and Winnipeg
Meanwhile, competitor Air Canada is adding another daily flight

Last Updated: Thursday, April 30, 2009 | 4:00 PM CT

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WestJet and Air Canada are re-jigging their schedules between Saskatchewan and Winnipeg. (Canadian Press file photo)
People looking to fly WestJet from Regina or Saskatoon to Winnipeg will have to make a small side-trip, through Alberta.

The airline is dropping direct flights between Saskatchewan and Manitoba. The new route to Winnipeg will see passengers directed to Edmonton or Calgary first.

The change will add several hours to the flight time. On a direct route, the trip to Winnipeg is about one hour. Going through Alberta will add about five hours.

With the total time clocking in at roughly six hours, a trip to Winnipeg, from Regina, would be faster by car. Add in time for getting to and from the airports, pre-boarding security and baggage pick-up and the WestJet travel approaches the same time that a bus would take, which is 8 1/2 hours via Greyhound.

Robert Palmer, a spokesperson for WestJet, told CBC News there was not enough demand to support the direct service.

"There had been a flight that went through Winnipeg and then on Toronto, but the Winnipeg leg of that flight, the loads were very poor, very low. Very few people were using it," Palmer explained.

WestJet had been using a 737 Boeing aircraft on the route, which has room for 136 passengers.

Air travelers were not impressed with the airline's decision.

"It's not very efficient," Tamara Horechko told CBC News when asked about the change. "It's going to waste a lot of our time when we're flying back and forth."

In contrast to WestJet's move, Air Canada recently announced it would be adding another daily flight, connecting Saskatoon and Regina to Winnipeg, starting in May. Air Canada uses smaller aircraft than WestJet for its regional service.

"I'm coming to Regina every week," Winnipeg-based traveler James Stevenson told CBC News. He said his job has him in Regina for two days every week, and it would not make any sense to for him to spend much of the time in the air.

"It's nice and convenient to fly in, spend a full day [or two] and fly home," Stevenson said. He said the WestJet route would never work for him.

WestJet told CBC News that it will monitor the situation to see if there is demand for a different route.
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Scrap the old terminal? Heritage assessment not required, but airport's architecture has defenders

By: Bartley Kives | Winnipeg Free Press - 2/05/2009 7:15 AM

A HERITAGE assessment planned for Richardson International Airport's passenger terminal has been cancelled, paving the way for the demolition of the architecturally sig­nificant structure when the airport's new terminal opens in 2010.

In April, the Winnipeg Airports Au­thority planned to assess the historic and artistic value of its 45-year-old glass-and-steel terminal, which aca­demics consider a rare and robust ex­ample of mid-century modern design.

But the formal review was cancelled when the private corporation learned it was not subject to rules that require federally owned buildings to undergo heritage assessments, WAA spokes­woman Christine Alongi said.

The authority now plans to tear down the existing terminal and find a new home for the two massive artworks at either end of the structure: Eli Born­stein's Structuralist Relief in Fifteen Parts and John Graham's Northern Lights.

"We withdrew from the process, be­cause we were advised it was not under Treasury Board policy," said Alongi, explaining that the WAA -- not Trans­port Canada -- effectively owns the ter­minal through a long-term lease.

Since no private-sector proposal to re-use the terminal has come forward, demolition will likely proceed in 2010 or 2011.

"Our business plan was always to utilize that private space," Alongi said. "If there was a business that wanted to utilize that space and put in the capital funding, that would interest us."

Right now, the only proposal for the space is a Western Canada Aviation Museum plan to build a new museum on the terminal site, which the air­ports authority won't need following the completion of its new, $672-million expansion. The expansion includes a new terminal designed by Cesar Pelli, whose credits also include the Petronas Towers in Malaysia.

The Ottawa-based Canadian Herit­age Foundation is now vowing to fight herit- the demolition, at least to the point of demanding the WAA conduct a herit­age assessment.

"Even though they're not obligated to do this, they are leasing one of the most significant modern buildings in Canada," said foundation spokeswoman Carolyn Quinn.

"In order to make the best and most informed decision about the future of the airport, having that assessment in front of them would make the most sense."

In 2008, the Canadian Heritage Foun­dation placed the Richardson terminal on its "Top 10 most endangered places" list. Along with airports in Toronto, Ed­monton and Gander, N.L., the terminal "was built as part of a nationwide pro­gram to show Canadians and the world -- through the creation of striking architecture -- that Canada was a for­ward- thinking, cosmopolitan nation," the foundation maintains.

University of Winnipeg art history professor Serena Keshavjee, an expert in modern architecture, said every as­pect of the terminal building, from the massive artworks down to the furni­ture design, was intended to push art­istic boundaries.

"That building was extremely high­quality, by international standards. It was cutting-edge at the time," she said, adding a respectful renovation during the 1980s maintained the build­ing's character. "It's hard for people to realize these modern buildings are heritage buildings. It's hard to realize buildings built within our lifetime are important."

The fate of the Bornstein and Gra­ham artworks also concern Keshavjee, as few Winnipeg buildings are large enough to store the sprawling murals.

Like the Canadian Heritage Founda­tion, she's urging a stay of execution for the terminal. Its sister building in Toronto has been demolished and the Edmonton terminal has been renovated beyond recognition.

"If we tear it down, we'll be sorry in a couple of years," she said.

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May 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Aren't they now building a new post office building at the airport that is about the size of the old terminal?
Why couldn't the post office have waited until vacant and then refurbish the old terminal and use that? Everyone would have won.Heritage gets their building saved,post office gets new digs where they want them and the poor little taxpayer may have saved a few bucks. Course that money would just be squandered somewhere else I'm sure.

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May 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM
KBT - you are bang on. I love the special interest heritage lobby because they somehow have a lot of political clout but their main mission seems to be to make it someone else's problem. This building should be preserved! And someone else should pay for it!

I traveled through the airport recently and while I was waiting to board the plane I sat and took a good long look at the terminal. My thoughts were: What a dump. The design is cold, ugly, and run down. I could only imagine what an embarrassment the terminal is as a first impression to every visitor who sees Winnipeg for the first time. The building is an eyesore that has to go. I could see if it was part of a district or area that the architecture fits in, but where is stands is completely without context.

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May 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Welcome to the old terminal at JR International! Or as we like to call it the Avenue Building 2. We know it just sits here looking empty and unused...mostly because no one will put their money where their mouth is...as so often happens in this town...but we couldn't DARE tear it down to make way for something new! No!! We....must....appreciate.....what...someone...else...has....already....built. We...must....squeeze...out..all...the.....app....reci......ation....we....can....muster! Look at it! Bask in its 60s grooviness! Appreciate its ironess! Its brickness! Its mortarness! Worship its airport terminalness!!! We don't do this for us! No! We do this for future generations of people who will have no choice but to point and say, "Hey! That building was built a long time ago!"




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May 2, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I agree with the other commentators,that the old terminal should be torn down, once the new terminal is built.

If these heritage types think it should be preserved, let them purchase or rent it at fair market value, and use it for something. It is easy for those people to spend other people's money on wasteful projects

Report abusive comment Posted by:logicgirl

May 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Why doesn't the Canadian Herit­age Foundation allocate their funds and rent the existing air terminal building and turn it into a viable business?

I don't understand why they haven't explored that option if the airport authority is looking to work with business.

There is a lot of developments at the airport right now, so perhaps instead of fighting demoition, the heritage foundation can get onboard with the renaissance taking place at our airport.

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May 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM
The contempt this city has for heritage architecture is embarrassing.

Report abusive comment Posted by:KBT

May 2, 2009 at 9:14 AM
It's all well and good to say that buildings should be preserved, but at whose cost? And if there's no identified purpose for the building, then what's to be done? Who should pay to maintain the building and for how long?

These stories would be more valuable and have more credibility if the antagonists suggested real, workable solutions rather than simply tilting at the windmills.

If there was anyone willing to repurpose the building and assume responsibility for its management, then certainly, preserve it. Absent that, there are other priorities for government spending.

Report abusive comment Posted by:pentax99

May 2, 2009 at 8:22 AM
If It serves no useful purpose, rip it down. The building really isn’t anything to look at anyway. Fill to repair the eroding river banks is a better use of the demolished structure.

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Is there a project website for the new Winnipeg Airport OTHER than the www.james2010.ca website? I find that website a little bit artsy and a bit less informative than it could be...
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the person doing it has kinda slacked off i could be doing better updates but then the person works doing other stuff to so no wonder..

anyhow it will be sad to see the old girl go no one seems to want it... and all we need is an abandond building left to rot at our airport so inless we can get a viable use we might as well tare it down though we could use the facade as a wind sheer and turn that into a scupture of arhiteture
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I've always thought putting the Greyhound Terminal at the Airport is a bad idea, to say the least. If you look at virtually every Canadian city, the bus depot is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure passengers are going to appreciate shelling out more money for cabs once it's built.
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I've always thought putting the Greyhound Terminal at the Airport is a bad idea, to say the least. If you look at virtually every Canadian city, the bus depot is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure passengers are going to appreciate shelling out more money for cabs once it's built.
There was talk of having a station strictly for pick-up and drop off for passengers somewheres downtown whether greyhound keeps to there word remains to be seen. A good place would be to have it at the VIA rail station.
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There was talk of having a station strictly for pick-up and drop off for passengers somewheres downtown whether greyhound keeps to there word remains to be seen. A good place would be to have it at the VIA rail station.
I know they do it in other cities, so I don't know why they wouldn't do it in Winnipeg.
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Cargo Tonnage up in Q1
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It is hardly news that North American economies are experiencing a recession and that air cargo volumes have declined in consequence. Airports Council International (ACI) reported that total air freight in the first quarter of 2009 had declined by 20.4% worldwide and by 19.4% in North America. Similarly the International Air Transport Association (IATA) advised that overall international air freight had fallen by 22.8% and by 24.4% in North America. Yet cargo tonnage at Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport increased by 4% over the same period. The positive results are attributed to the relatively strong local economy in Manitoba and the predominance of express and courier traffic which may be less susceptible to downturns than general cargo.
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The airport is hoping for a June 2010 opening.
Probably just in time for a spike in oil prices and an increase in jet fuel, which in turn makes what few airlines that are left increase ticket prices which drops the number of travelers which in turn negates the need for large passenger terminals.

Don't want to be a negative Nelly but the numbers of passengers airlines transported probably has already peaked and probably will never reach those numbers again.
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Probably just in time for a spike in oil prices and an increase in jet fuel, which in turn makes what few airlines that are left increase ticket prices which drops the number of travelers which in turn negates the need for large passenger terminals.

Don't want to be a negative Nelly but the numbers of passengers airlines transported probably has already peaked and probably will never reach those numbers again.

Holy shit!!!! you actually had a positive word in one of your posts. ^^^^ well it is about as positive as it gets for you. Fuck you must be pretty depressing in everyday life.


...man everything out of your mouth is negative.
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Probably just in time for a spike in oil prices and an increase in jet fuel, which in turn makes what few airlines that are left increase ticket prices which drops the number of travelers which in turn negates the need for large passenger terminals.

Don't want to be a negative Nelly but the numbers of passengers airlines transported probably has already peaked and probably will never reach those numbers again.
I will agree that oil prices will once again rise and this will affect all airlines. However, I disagree about the fact that the "peak" in passengers has been reached. With the global recession recent passenger numbers have fallen, but it is still predicted that overall passenger traffic world wide will continue to increase long term, perhaps at a slower pace. I will also note not all airports are affected equally. Thus, some will expand and some will contract. It is predicted that Winnipeg passenger traffic will continue to increase over the long term as the city continues to grow. In addition, Air Canada and West Jet have been holding off on any major changes at YWG until the new terminal is finished.
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Probably just in time for a spike in oil prices and an increase in jet fuel, which in turn makes what few airlines that are left increase ticket prices which drops the number of travelers which in turn negates the need for large passenger terminals.

Don't want to be a negative Nelly but the numbers of passengers airlines transported probably has already peaked and probably will never reach those numbers again.
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Don't want to be a negative Nelly but the numbers of passengers airlines transported probably has already peaked and probably will never reach those numbers again.
You honestly think air travel is in decline??... come on. If there is one certainty in life is air transportation will become more previlant in the future. Not just for people movement, but also for cargo goods.

As the globalized economy takes hold and expands, the world will become more intercontected by air. Winnipeg will be well positioned for the years to come with the new terminal, expanded airport campus and Centre Port Canada. This recession will be a thing of the past by the time the new terminal opens and will be looking towards phase 2 (additional gates) before you know it.
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Speaking of phase 2, was there a set plan already in place for it, such as the gates you mentioned or is it more much more elaborate?
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You honestly think air travel is in decline??... come on. If there is one certainty in life is air transportation will become more previlant in the future. Not just for people movement, but also for cargo goods.

As the globalized economy takes hold and expands, the world will become more intercontected by air. Winnipeg will be well positioned for the years to come with the new terminal, expanded airport campus and Centre Port Canada. This recession will be a thing of the past by the time the new terminal opens and will be looking towards phase 2 (additional gates) before you know it.

I really think air travel is going to become more restrictive as crude prices start to spike, that said I totally agree that air cargo will increase.


PS To those who think I am a negative Nelly, more a realist I would say! People tend to forget that the last big spike in oil prices bankrupted dozens of airlines.
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may i add those airlines were going broke allready..
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