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Old Posted Jan 15, 2017, 4:14 AM
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Talk about the one part of the city with plenty of black glass boxes already.. this is where Richard Meier decides to ditch his signature white?
     
     
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The East Side seems to bring out the worst in our starchitects. See Norman Foster's hideous residential tower by the UN.
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A filler nonetheless. At 459 ft, will be barely noticeable. Only thing this has going for it is being near the water.


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Meier turns to the dark side
A change of palette brings new subtleties to the architect’s work


February 01, 2017
By James Gardner


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.....The 42-story tower has already started to rise on a small parcel just west of Solow’s prize land holding, a six-acre plot between East 38th and East 41st streets on First Avenue. Solow is seeking to build five buildings in all, with four residential buildings and an office tower designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill. In addition, there will be a small park, immediately to the east of 685 First Avenue, that is being designed by James Corner Field Operations.

As yet, only 685 First Avenue has been commissioned, and it remains to be seen whether the three other residential towers will also be designed by Richard Meier & Partners. The building has already risen to the fourth floor, and by the end of the year, according to Meier’s firm, the structural work should be finished and the glass panels of the curtain wall will start to go up. Completion is expected by the end of 2018 or beginning of 2019.

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The great test that Meier faces with his design for 685 First Avenue is the vivid possibility that it will look like an office building. But such is the delicacy and warmth of the details that this development feels completely domestic rather than corporate. This is late modernism, or indeed, neo-modernism at its most inviting. It has learned from the mistakes of modernism the first time around, and it is determined not to repeat them.

For now, of course, we have only the renderings to go by. And ultimately, no description, no rendering or photograph can tell you what you need to know in assessing the finished product. Whether the project bears out its considerable promise we shall not know for a few more years, but there is abundant reason to be optimistic. I, for one, would venture to predict that 685 First Avenue will be one of the best buildings in New York, and in Meier’s portfolio.
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nice. I hope this design for "708 First" is back on the table. Its a shame the NIMBYs shortened it.

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800-foot office tower once envisioned at 708 First Avenue. Due to community opposition, upon approval the tower, along with all others, was scaled down in height. Courtesy Skidmore Owings & Merrill (SOM).


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It's minimal. I like it. Not everything needs to be flash as long as it's well done with quality materials. A little glass is going to look good next to all those brick buildings.
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hey there is a little bit of black glass facade on it now -- a big leap for a meier tower!

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A decent revival of a modernist black box from the 50s with a difference. It's lazy design, but I think it suits the area and complements the amazing UN building, one of my favorite modernist towers of the period.

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The UN HQ was a great tower, and very futuristic looking for its time. It looks great from the side. Mies did a nice building.

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A filler nonetheless. At 459 ft, will be barely noticeable. Only thing this has going for it is being near the water.
I take it that you don't like modernist revival towers too much. I have recently come to like them more een though they are very subtle and minimalist. I can appreciate the mid-century classics (like IBM, GM, Seagram building and UN) too and thus the new stuff based on them. I can understand though why the majority don't like these towers and consider them boring and cold which is fine.

However, the past is that past and we need to move on to more contemporary styles like other cities are doing - you wouldn't see this kind of tower going up in cities that live on the cutting edge of design. I would be happy if they stopped building towers like this forever in NY and replaced them with hyper futuristic styles.. More 15/30 HY and Hadid's avant-garde stuff, and less 55 HY, this and 432 Park Avenue (even though those are nice towers). Even Vanderbilt and Steinway are a little retro for me.

As for not having his signature white: I think he went black here because he didn't want to upstage the UN. Probably wanted a more understated presence on the river at that location. I'm sure he is a student of modernist design and appreciates the Mies building and it's historical significance. Or maybe it was Meyer in a dark mood.

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