510 SE Morrison St | 160' | 12 Floors | Proposed

maccoinnich · #1 Posted **Dec 5, 2018, 7:12 AM**

via Portland Maps I see there's a Pre-Application Conference scheduled for a new proposal adjacent to the Weatherly Building:

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A Pre-Application Confernce to discuss seismic upgrades to an existing building on the north portion of the block and construction of a new office building on the south half of the block. The new building would be approximately 153' tall and 198,000 square feet of floor area. There is a 20' wide pedestrian connection proposed through the block running east/west between the two buildings. The new building will have structured parking and on-site loading with access from SE 6th.

and also a Design Advice Request meeting:

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New twelve story office building with ground level retail and below grade parking. Site is contributing in East Portland-Grand Avenue Historic District.

MarkDaMan · #2 Posted **Dec 5, 2018, 4:43 PM**

Well this is going to be an interesting one to watch!

geohiker · #3 Posted **Dec 5, 2018, 5:09 PM**

Glad to see something finally being done about that surface parking lot. It's a shame that the oriental theater was demoed for that lot. Hopefully the new building will have a nod to the site's former theater.

subterranean · #4 Posted **Dec 5, 2018, 10:14 PM**

Interesting. How tall is the existing building? That one always looks so out of place.

MarkDaMan · #5 Posted **Dec 5, 2018, 10:34 PM**

Emporis says 175'.

https://www.emporis.com/buildings/12...ortland-or-usa

AdamUrbanist · #6 Posted **Dec 6, 2018, 2:29 AM**

Historic review will be interesting. Buckle up.

maccoinnich · #7 Posted **Dec 8, 2018, 6:07 PM**

Notice of a Pre-Application Conference. Architects are Perkins + Will.

eric cantona · #8 Posted **Dec 8, 2018, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

Architects are Perkins + Will.

wild.

AdamUrbanist · #9 Posted **Dec 8, 2018, 8:42 PM**

I’m really looking forward to seeing the east side develop its own skyline. I hope the historic commission doesn’t throw a fit about the height.

Inner Ring · #10 Posted **Dec 9, 2018, 7:27 AM**

The proposal would seismically upgrade the Weatherly, which is, I'm sure, an expensive undertaking. I would argue that the new building would not only be compatible with the Weatherly as far as height ("The scale, form, proportion, and detailing of the new building...should be compatible with the adjacent historic buildings..." (from the E.P./Grand Ave. Hist. Dist. guidelines), but also profits from the new building will help pay for the Weatherly upgrade, and are desirable for that reason alone.

Inner Ring · #11 Posted **Dec 9, 2018, 7:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by eric cantona

wild.

Carlton and Hart, they ain't.

AcmeGreg · #12 Posted **Dec 9, 2018, 4:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

Notice of a Pre-Application Conference. Architects are Perkins + Will.

Perkins + Will did the Kohler Building at OHSU right?

urbanlife · #13 Posted **Dec 10, 2018, 7:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by AdamUrbanist

I’m really looking forward to seeing the east side develop its own skyline. I hope the historic commission doesn’t throw a fit about the height.

I expect they will recommend that the building be no taller than a one story warehouse, and in the end settle with allowing it to be 5-7 stories and look like a warehouse or be tan.

maccoinnich · #14 Posted **Jan 19, 2019, 5:57 PM**

Posting Notice (with image)

johnliu · #15 Posted **Jan 19, 2019, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Inner Ring

I would argue that the new building would not only be compatible with the Weatherly as far as height ("The scale, form, proportion, and detailing of the new building...should be compatible with the adjacent historic buildings..."

It is an interesting question whether the existence of one 175' building in a historic district of otherwise much lower buildings means that all new buildings of 175' are automatically of "compatible" scale.

Kind of like does the presence of the Eiffel Tower mean that 1000' buildings are compatible with the 7eme.

Conceptually, associating the new building with the Weatherby might help. But other than being on the same block and owned by the same entity, what is the association? No design association is apparent from the rendering, other than both buildings are generally rectangular.

RainDog · #16 Posted **Jan 20, 2019, 3:35 AM**

HLC Response:

maccoinnich · #17 Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 1:52 AM**

Drawings [6MB], more drawings [3 MB] and Staff Memo.

zilfondel · #18 Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 5:25 AM**

Yeah this ones DOA from the start.

AdamUrbanist · #19 Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 4:53 PM**

I’m all for building a tall contemporary building on this site, but honestly I don’t see how they’ve done anything at all to relate to the historic district or the Weatherly building. This would be a gateway building and this scheme really doesn’t feel like one.

eric cantona · #20 Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by zilfondel

Yeah this ones DOA from the start.

It's almost like P+W did not do any research into previous projects that went to the HLC. Weird. Hope that have a decent design budget because they're going to have to redesign the whole damn thing.