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Old Posted Nov 7, 2008, 1:29 PM
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Youngstown, Ohio - Keeping its dignity in the face of hard times

Youngstown, Ohio
August 21, 2008


Youngstown was an overnight stop en route to Pennsylvania. I stayed at the Super 8 near the interstate on the west side, and drove Mahoning Avenue to downtown.

I feel like it would be pretty easy to spend three days or more photographing Youngstown. I never made it to Mill Creek Park, or any of the former, now abandoned, steel mill sites.

I had heard of the Tod engine, the massive steam engine from one of the rolling mills, and had even seen photos of its being dismantled for removal from its original location, but didn't realize it was built by a Youngstown company or located there, or that the restored engine had its place in its own park, soon to have a building built to shelter it.

The motel was just fine for the price I paid, and Youngstown people for the most part seemed pretty nice.

These photos were taken on a Thursday afternoon during business hours.





Oh, Really?


The 1905 B&O Station is listed on the National Register of Historic Places
















Amtrak's Three Rivers last stopped here March 8, 2005
























Mahoning County Courthouse








































For several years part of Federal Street was a pedestrian mall. That met with no more success than most such ventures in midwestern cities. Despite the dearth of commercial or retail activity, downtown Youngstown is clean and mostly well-maintained, with little evidence of tagging or other vandalism. The few people whom I did meet were friendly.























The Youngstown Historical Center of Industry and Labor, designed by Michael Graves, features displays, some very imposing, describing the industries that built Youngstown -- Coal mining, iron and steel making and surprisingly, silk production.






































The Butler Institute of American Art was designed by McKim, Mead and White in 1919 and is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. The institute charges no admission fees and receives no federal, state or local tax money, and is supported entirely by corporate and individual donations.
















Youngstown State University is an accredited university. As of 2005 its enrollment was approximately 13,000 students, of whom approximately 11,000 were undergraduates.
































Stambaugh Auditorium was designed by Helmle and Corbett Architects of New York City and built of Indiana Limestone. It was dedicated in 1926.




Youngstown Thermal Corporation provides steam and chilled water for heating and cooling , through a network of pipes beneath the city streets.














The 1948 Pennsylvania Railroad Station also served as a bus station, but I don't know if that was concurrent with its service as a passenger rail station, or later. Now it's a fireworks store, and the platforms are fenced off with chain-link topped with razor wire.










Ukrainian Catholic Church




















Jolly once, maybe. Now, not so much.


American industry was not ruined by organized labor. It was done in by management ineptitude, policies that emphasized short-term cash flow without considering their effects on long-term viability, and the ill-founded belief in a mythical "services economy" based upon the manipulation of money.
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I hope they can hang onto those great old buildings.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2008, 2:58 PM
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Great thread--the D200 is something else.

Wasn't this the city that halved its Downtown or something?
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^Not quite - they've developed a comprehensive strategy to deal with the disinvestment that's rampant. Youngstown's downtown is actually in decent shape as far as the built environment goes - it's the older inner-city neighborhoods that are having serious problems with blight and disinvestment. They're not "halving" their downtown, they're reducing the footprint of the built environment that the city is responsible for upkeep (road paving, snowplowing, etc.). Read more here: http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1907

Thanks for the memories, Rob - this place and the alterna/punk concerts held there were such a highlight of my teen years:
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What a rich city! Wow! It really deserves some sort of comeback!
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Fantastic collection. Downtown's got beautiful bones.
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nice shots of...

....a grand old city
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It looks like they've done a nice job with the upkeep of downtown. Clean & well maintained.
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Thank you for showing Ohio's 7th largest metro.
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The downtown looks well maintained for having so many people leaving the city. Hopefully it's bottomed out and that we will see it rebound over the next few decades. I like the Ukrainian Church.
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For as much shit as Youngstown gets, its downtown still looks pretty good.

Hope it can stage a comeback.

Hope Kelly Pavlik can get his belt back too.
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Downtown looks nice! Plenty of interesting architecture in Youngstown, both classic and modern.
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Great collection of structures; a little depressed looking, though. Nice pictures.
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Old stuff, but nice to see them again!
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this is awesome
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Righteous!

What, no pictures of the Royal Oaks or Nyabinghi? Haha.

I love Ytown, great photographs.

I do believe the exodus has bottomed out, the city and region is primed to make a comeback.
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Righteous!

What, no pictures of the Royal Oaks or Nyabinghi? Haha.

I love Ytown, great photographs.

I do believe the exodus has bottomed out, the city and region is primed to make a comeback.
Metro Youngstown has enjoyed vigorous employment growth over the past year.
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Nice tour. I visited Youngstown two summers ago. I need to go back...
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